Why so much hate towards little ol Mercury?

[_barrelomonkeys]

I don't hate you Mercury.

But if you have opinions you shouldn't be surprised when other people have theirs.

heres the thing. I'm pretty straightforward. This is not a Thursday night debate class. Its a sown and at times dirty discussion board. part of it is venting, (I think GIMR has proven this dramatically), part lighhearted discussion and part serious discussion. I don't hold anything back but at the same time I am not setting out to be a dick.

I do not think some of the christians on this and other boards truly see the implications that their system of belief brings with their other opinions of supposed peace and love. Instead its all love one another and in the next breath they are waving a "god hates fags" sign. To be christian, even a liberal commie leftie christian implies that you believe everyone but those who believe as you do are going to dwell with satan in hellfire.

How can christians be smug and I can't?

Mercury, I'm not a Christian and can't answer for them. There are some Christians that do not live up to their faith. I have witnessed this and these people do irritate me. I just can tell you that I do know some that are not haughty with their faith and genuinely do love their neighbors. I'm sorry you haven't met any of these people.

I fear your relationship with the LDS church (and I've got to tell you that the part of the country you now reside in probably doesn't help matters either) has skewed your perception of what most American mainstream Christians are.

[_Mercury]

I don't hate you Mercury.

But if you have opinions you shouldn't be surprised when other people have theirs.

heres the thing. I'm pretty straightforward. This is not a Thursday night debate class. Its a sown and at times dirty discussion board. part of it is venting, (I think GIMR has proven this dramatically), part lighhearted discussion and part serious discussion. I don't hold anything back but at the same time I am not setting out to be a dick.

I do not think some of the christians on this and other boards truly see the implications that their system of belief brings with their other opinions of supposed peace and love. Instead its all love one another and in the next breath they are waving a "god hates fags" sign. To be christian, even a liberal commie leftie christian implies that you believe everyone but those who believe as you do are going to dwell with satan in hellfire.

How can christians be smug and I can't?

Mercury, I'm not a Christian and can't answer for them. There are some Christians that do not live up to their faith. I have witnessed this and these people do irritate me. I just can tell you that I do know some that are not haughty with their faith and genuinely do love their neighbors. I'm sorry you haven't met any of these people.

I fear your relationship with the LDS church (and I've got to tell you that the part of the country you now reside in probably doesn't help matters either) has skewed your perception of what most American mainstream Christians are.

Don't sugarcoat it. Mainstream christianity is a soft hate group and anything outside a progressive model is deemed unchristian, unpatriotic, etc. There are exceptions, I freely see that but the overwhelming majority of christian belief is of a superior people destined to do whatever teh hell they want. Its time you saw how others see you. State to others how you feel, maybe you'll get how they really feel instead of just doing what I did on my mission and shaking my head in mock agreement but secretly smirking that I would be their lord in heaven because I had "the truth".

[_dartagnan]

Dart made some valid points and you simply are ignoring him. Why?

He doesn't have time he says.

But strangely enough, he has time to start more threads about the same thing.

Mercury, I accept you as an atheist, so what the hell are you talking about? I haven't once ragged on you about your atheism have I? I only speak up now when you pretend to be some advanced superhuman who doesn't have a primitive gene defect that makes you believe in God. Worse of all, you misrepresent science to suit your agenda.

I'm calling you on your claims, and you keep dodging.

Oh well.

[_Jason Bourne]

Because its all over the place. and who the hell says I am not going to reply when I get some freaking time!

Take your prozac dude. Based on the post you made it did not seem you were going to.

Once again the dogpile continues and the wailing and gnashing of teeth continue the DEMAND for a reply. His points were valid if taken into the improper context he purposefully framed it in.

Oh cry me a river for pete's sake. Why the sudden persecution complex. Can dish it out but can't take it?

I could give the same reasons others have given for ignoring me and they would be just as valid.

Whatever toots your tooter.

[_barrelomonkeys]

Don't sugarcoat it. Mainstream christianity is a soft hate group and anything outside a progressive model is deemed unchristian, unpatriotic, etc.

I'm not sugarcoating it. I disagree with you. I do not believe they are a hate group.

Its time you saw how others see you.

And how do you believe others see me Mercury?

State to others how you feel, maybe you'll get how they really feel instead of just doing what I did on my mission and shaking my head in mock agreement but secretly smirking that I would be their lord in heaven because I had "the truth".

I don't secretly smirk. I don't feel superior to those of faith.

[_moksha]

He doesn't have time he says.

But strangely enough, he has time to start more threads about the same thing.

I have also noticed that some have vacated the board since the barage of posts began. My guess is that too much vitriol upsets the PH balance of the board.

[_barrelomonkeys]

Moksha, I think you're right.

[_Mercury]

Dart made some valid points and you simply are ignoring him. Why?

He doesn't have time he says.

But strangely enough, he has time to start more threads about the same thing.

Mercury, I accept you as an atheist, so what the hell are you talking about? I haven't once ragged on you about your atheism have I? I only speak up now when you pretend to be some advanced superhuman who doesn't have a primitive gene defect that makes you believe in God. Worse of all, you misrepresent science to suit your agenda.

I'm calling you on your claims, and you keep dodging.

Oh well.

Who said I didn't have the defect? Those with Cerebral palsy can recognize they have the disease. I'm not a superhuman, just someone who is very up front about what he sees.

And the time issue is dealing with the little imps crowing for a response while I am working on other responses to other threads in addition to a bazillion other things unrelated to this corner of the tubes.

I'm not dodging at all. Jezuseffinchrist dude, at least have the common decency to chop up your posts into digestible chunks. Its so much more enjoyable to confront someone on specific issues instead of your typical shotgun approach. Just asking for a favor, if you could.

[_Mercury]

He doesn't have time he says.

But strangely enough, he has time to start more threads about the same thing.

I have also noticed that some have vacated the board since the barage of posts began. My guess is that too much vitriol upsets the PH balance of the board.

Yes, because its all about me. Do not blame me for others decisions unless you want me banned from the board. If so, why don't you bring it up with the mods? Lets discuss this if you have such a hardon for calling me out.

[_Sam Harris]

Dart, Book of Mormon and I are having a fruitful discussion. Can you take a minute from being a blathering hypocrite and accept my beliefs? Besides, if you don't accept me for who I am you are nothing but a hypocrite.

See the rub? I doubt it.

I don't believe you can ever have a "fruitful discussion". My hat goes off to Kevin for even replying. And look at your reply. All you can do is call him a "blathering hypocrite". Very fruitful, indeed. What, you want the discussion to be only between you and Book of Mormon? What a waste of time and space you are.

LOL, first of all, I can't believe this thread was started, and forgive me MD for fanning the flames. I will be spanked, I'm sure. Merc's the little victim now, is he?

Secondly, I don't hate Merc. Hatred is not in my nature these days. I disagree with him.

Thirdly, yes....I feel it...yes. The end is near. I agreed with something RayA had to say (um, Ray? I've been defending your right to be a Mormon for days now, you may eat your words, punk). It'll never ever happen again, but it just did.

The stars may fall from the heavens now.


And Dartangan (I may name a son that...he might hate me, but I love that name), once again you've blown it out of the park. You have far more patience (and knowledge of the more scientific aspect of this subject) than me. Kudos.