Old before their time?

[_gramps]

Hi Ray,

Why don't you forgive him? It will eat away at your soul if you don't, you know? Even calling your daughter such despicable things is no reason to let it eat you up inside, is it?

Some people have a hard time getting over things. It seems you do to, just like the rest of us.

Gramps, your aside is meaningless. You are trying to suggest that I should "get over" this as I suggest exmos should get over their negative Mormon experience. Apples and oranges. Slug me all you like, and I can wear it, and even get over it. But touch my daughters, and I will kill you.

Well, apparently not. Get over it, that is.

Noone touched your daughters. It was a comment made on a BB, for heaven's sakes, to you. And you can't give it up?

Perdition? Murder? A little over the top, no?

[_Ray A]

Well, apparently not. Get over it, that is.

Noone touched your daughters. It was a comment made on a BB, for heaven's sakes, to you. And you can't give it up?

Perdition? Murder? A little over the top, no?

I have no apology to make. And I will repeat: You can say what you like about me. But if you insult, defame, or slander my children - you are dead meat. And I don't give a s*** about PC. To call my daughter a "crack whore" is simply unforgivable.

Yes, it does eat me up inside, and to this day I'm furious. Not for me, but because the comment was so typical of the arseholes who turn against their former religion and then think it's okay to have no boundaries.

[_Ray A]

A poster on FAIR insulted my daughter as well. This poster was supposedly a good Mormon. I read him the riot act as well.

Well I'd like to know who this poster is, and what he/she said. On this point, I fully stand by you.

[_gramps]

Well, apparently not. Get over it, that is.

Noone touched your daughters. It was a comment made on a BB, for heaven's sakes, to you. And you can't give it up?

Perdition? Murder? A little over the top, no?

I have no apology to make. And I will repeat: You can say what you like about me. But if you insult, defame, or slander my children - you are dead meat. And I don't give a s*** about PC. To call my daughter a "crack whore" is simply unforgivable.

Yes, it does eat me up inside, and to this day I'm furious. Not for me, but because the comment was so typical of the arseholes who turn against their former religion and then think it's okay to have no boundaries.

I like you Ray. I have nothing against you. I just think this is over the top. As a lot of your stuff has been lately.

You say that to insult, defame, or slander your children justifies murder? or what does "dead meat" mean in this statement of yours?

To tell you the truth: you sound a lot more dangerous and unstable to me than any antis on this board. If there is someone to fear, it would be you, rather than any I have met on this or any other board, to be frank.

Talk about someone with no boundaries! Geez!

Have you killed someone before (military service or police, or...), by the way? I take it you have, to be able to talk so cavalierly about killing someone.

[_Ray A]

You say that to insult, defame, or slander your children justifies murder? or what does "dead meat" mean in this statement of yours?

It means exactly that. And any honourable parent would think the same. Do you want me to inject some PC to make it sound more benign? More benign to what any parent would feel, in reality? Away with this PC b***s***.

To tell you the truth: you sound a lot more dangerous and unstable to me than any antis on this board. If there is someone to fear, it would be you, rather than any I have met on this or any other board, to be frank.

That just shows how biased you are. Go on RFM and read what the anti-Mormon terrorists have written there. Oh, Nothing to say about that, Gramps?

Have you killed someone before (military service or police, or...), by the way? I take it you have, to be able to talk so cavalierly about killing someone.

I can take a lot. And I have taken a lot. And I will not resort to violence for any comments about me, that's a promise. I have worn a million derogatory comments about me on the Net, and that's par for course. I draw the line at my children.

[_gramps]

Ray wrote:

It means exactly that. And any honourable parent would think the same. Do you want me to inject some PC to make it sound more benign? More benign to what any parent would feel, in reality? Away with this PC b***s***.

I don't care about PC. I care about killing someone for insult, slander and defamation. That's not a PC issue at all. It's just the law. I think murder laws are good. The extra-judicial stuff I think I will pass on. Even if a Prophet ok's it.

I have a child who gets called mean things all the time because his mother is Japanese and his father is not Japanese. It's really tough for him and it ain't gonna stop, but I don't think it is dishonourable of me not to kill all the little assholes that hurt him with such terrible names. Do you think it is dishonourable of me not to kill them all? Dead meat, as you would say.

That just shows how biased you are. Go on RFM and read what the anti-Mormon terrorists have written there. Oh, Nothing to say about that, Gramps?

Could you please direct me to an anti-Mormon terrorist or one of his/her threads on that RFM board? I would like to read it before I comment on it.

I quickly glance through RFM for anything that might sound interesting, for example, historical references, good books, interesting articles I may have missed, etc.. I do not actively participate on that board, however.

I can take a lot. And I have taken a lot. And I will not resort to violence for any comments about me, that's a promise. I have worn a million derogatory comments about me on the Net, and that's par for course. I draw the line at my children.

Macho! I would guess you are surrounded by women eating up that macho, honourable character of yours. Lucky man, indeed.

[_Ray A]

I have a child who gets called mean things all the time because his mother is Japanese and his father is not Japanese. It's really tough for him and it ain't gonna stop, but I don't think it is dishonourable of me not to kill all the little assholes that hurt him with such terrible names. Do you think it is dishonourable of me not to kill them all? Dead meat, as you would say.

And does your child get called a "crack whore" for that? Tough, isn't it?

[_gramps]

I have a child who gets called mean things all the time because his mother is Japanese and his father is not Japanese. It's really tough for him and it ain't gonna stop, but I don't think it is dishonourable of me not to kill all the little assholes that hurt him with such terrible names. Do you think it is dishonourable of me not to kill them all? Dead meat, as you would say.

And does your child get called a "crack whore" for that? Tough, isn't it?

So where is your line for murder: "Whore" would be ok? or must it have "crack" preceding it?

How about "bitch?" Would that be over the line Ray?

Anyway, it is not the words themselves, but the meaning within the context and environment, right?

About my son: No, they don't call him a crack whore. Just a lot of other real mean things, such that he becomes unsure if he is whole or not. The point is that it breaks my heart as it does yours.

But again, I'm not going to kill the assholes, Ray. (Even if my son thought I was a wimp for not doing so. But that is just me.) The macho b***s*** is over-rated, in my humble estimation.

I will wait for the anti-Mormon terrorist thread links. Perhaps it might take a while. That is understandable.

[_Ray A]

So where is your line for murder: "Whore" would be ok? or must it have "crack" preceding it?

How about "bitch?" Would that be over the line Ray?

Anyway, it is not the words themselves, but the meaning within the context and environment, right?

About my son: No, they don't call him a crack whore. Just a lot of other real mean things, such that he becomes unsure if he is whole or not. The point is that it breaks my heart as it does yours.

But again, I'm not going to kill the assholes, Ray. (Even if my son thought I was a wimp for not doing so. But that is just me.) The macho b***s*** is over-rated, in my humble estimation.

I hate to have to tell you that I've already used physical retribution against people who've attacked my children. One "neighbour" threatened to "bash" one of my sons and I ended up putting the lights out of him and breaking three of his ribs. He spent two days in hospital. Shocking? Well so be it. Now if this guy had called my daughter a "crack whore", he might have had to deal with a week in hospital.

Go on with your PC crap, Gramps.

I will wait for the anti-Mormon terrorist thread links. Perhaps it might take a while. That is understandable.

I already provided this on the old MDB, but obviously you weren't there. Like I said, say anything you want about me. I really don't care, Gramps. I can take all of Scratch's innuendo like water off the proverbial duck's back. But be very careful what you say about my children, especially if you plan to visit Australia. :) "Breaking my heart" isn't quite enough. I need to break a few bones in the process if it involves my children.

[_gramps]

Ray wrote:

I hate to have to tell you that I've already used physical retribution against people who've attacked my children. One "neighbour" threatened to "bash" one of my sons and I ended up putting the lights out of him and breaking three of his ribs. He spent two days in hospital. Shocking? Well so be it. Now if this guy had called my daughter a "crack whore", he might have had to deal with a week in hospital.

Actually, you seem to somehow be enjoying, even relishing, telling me this story. You are less shocking and less shocking the more I read your over-the-top posts.

A week in the hospital? I thought you said you would have killed him. Which is it?

Go on with your PC crap, Gramps.

I never knew it was PC not to kill someone for words that they speak. Thanks for your Australian enlightenment. Very much appreciated.

I already provided this on the old MDB, but obviously you weren't there. Like I said, say anything you want about me. I really don't care, Gramps. I can take all of Scratch's innuendo like water off the proverbial duck's back. But be very careful what you say about my children, especially if you plan to visit Australia. :) "Breaking my heart" isn't quite enough. I need to break a few bones in the process if it involves my children.

Well, to each his own. Your macho attitude is highly becoming of you, Ray. A true model of behavior.

I still would like the anti-Mormon terrorist links. There must be some new ones if you can't find any of the old ones. RFM hasn't shut down.