Yay!! Check fraud!

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Mercury wrote:
Nephi wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:
Nephi wrote:by the way, this thread was supposed to be about check fraud, not the church.


Nephi, you posted an off-topic post in the wrong forum. I made it on-topic for you. You should be thanking me! ;)

Oh, and if you think there's not pro-Mormon literature containing outright lies or, at the least, lies of omission, you're nuts! But it's alright for them to lie, I guess. Joseph Smith, after all, long ago started the LDS tradition of lying for the Lord.

KA

You don't even believe in God, so what do you care if someone lies about something you don't believe in?


Gawd, your credibility just left the building.

Since I have no credibility with you to begin with, this statement means nothing.
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Nephi wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:
Nephi wrote:by the way, this thread was supposed to be about check fraud, not the church.


Nephi, you posted an off-topic post in the wrong forum. I made it on-topic for you. You should be thanking me! ;)

Oh, and if you think there's not pro-Mormon literature containing outright lies or, at the least, lies of omission, you're nuts! But it's alright for them to lie, I guess. Joseph Smith, after all, long ago started the LDS tradition of lying for the Lord.

KA

You don't even believe in God, so what do you care if someone lies about something you don't believe in?


Nephi, you don't know what I believe or don't believe about God. How can you know when I don't even know myself?

And I do care that people get lied to, Nephi. I care about people and all I want is for them to hear all sides of a story, in particular, the Mormon story. I don't want people to be uninformed about something to which they dedicate their lives.

KA
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Nephi wrote: by the way, this thread was supposed to be about check fraud, not the church.




I just caught this.

I'll move this to the Off Topic Forum.
_Nephi

Post by _Nephi »

KimberlyAnn wrote:
Nephi wrote:
KimberlyAnn wrote:
Nephi wrote:by the way, this thread was supposed to be about check fraud, not the church.


Nephi, you posted an off-topic post in the wrong forum. I made it on-topic for you. You should be thanking me! ;)

Oh, and if you think there's not pro-Mormon literature containing outright lies or, at the least, lies of omission, you're nuts! But it's alright for them to lie, I guess. Joseph Smith, after all, long ago started the LDS tradition of lying for the Lord.

KA

You don't even believe in God, so what do you care if someone lies about something you don't believe in?


Nephi, you don't know what I believe or don't believe about God. How can you know when I don't even know myself?

And I do care that people get lied to, Nephi. I care about people and all I want is for them to hear all sides of a story, in particular, the Mormon story. I don't want people to be uninformed about something to which they dedicate their lives.

KA

I apologize, but I thought I remember you saying that you didn't believe in God in a previous thread. I am sorry for misquoting you.
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

You may be thinking about my comments that no one can know God exists. I cannot say with certainty that God does not exist, but the odds are against it because there's no objective evidence. But I don't consider myself an atheist. I guess you could call me a hopeful agnostic.

KA
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Ray A wrote:I'll go through it. As you know, I burnt mine.


You shouldn't have.



Well what's even more shocking is that I'm also thinking of burning the remaining portion. I started keeping a journal in 1975, and have a few volumes which amount to over 2,000 pages. I stopped recording journals in the late '90s, If I recall correctly. No, I lie. I did occasionally record in the 2000s, and that would be worth keeping. I'm still undecided about what to do with the remaining portion, but it holds little interest for me. After separation and divorce in 2000 I began a completely new and different life, and much of the recorded portions have a lot of commentary about my ex-wife. For me that is now totally meaningless, even boring.

I much prefer photos, and as they say a picture speaks a thousand words. I have a fairly rich photo collection, especially saved on the PC, which reminds me I have to transfer them to CD. Some of these are real gems, some of my parents going back to the 1920s and 30s, and one rare photo of my Carib Indian great grandmother, taken in 1927. It is the only one in existence that I know of, which I recently shared with my American cousin, who was completely blown away by it. He couldn't believe that I had this photo, but I am known somewhat as the "family historian", which began when I did the four generation genealogy back in the '80s. All of these are of great worth to me. I would never part with them, nor the photos of my children. But the journals are a pain in the arse, especially having to cart them around every time I move. I've kept all of my letter correpondence as well, and have an extremely rich collection. I even have my excommunication request letter, and a letter written by my brother in 1974, after we parted working together, which was quite prophetic. I also have correspondence with a member of the stake presidency in 1988, when he tried to dissuade me from going through with my excommunication. Those I will keep, but I think the personal journals are about to be thrown into Hades.

I also have some 2,000 pages (?) of correspondence with Max Nolan, a friend from Western Australia, where for 15 years we discussed mainly Mormonism, with letters sometimes going to 40 pages. Max died of cancer in 2000, so these letters have some interest for me, as well as looking at my perplexing journey through Mormonism over that crucial formative period.
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

Ray A wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:
Ray A wrote:I'll go through it. As you know, I burnt mine.


You shouldn't have.



Well what's even more shocking is that I'm also thinking of burning the remaining portion. I started keeping a journal in 1975, and have a few volumes which amount to over 2,000 pages. I stopped recording journals in the late '90s, If I recall correctly. No, I lie. I did occasionally record in the 2000s, and that would be worth keeping. I'm still undecided about what to do with the remaining portion, but it holds little interest for me. After separation and divorce in 2000 I began a completely new and different life, and much of the recorded portions have a lot of commentary about my ex-wife. For me that is now totally meaningless, even boring.

I much prefer photos, and as they say a picture speaks a thousand words. I have a fairly rich photo collection, especially saved on the PC, which reminds me I have to transfer them to CD. Some of these are real gems, some of my parents going back to the 1920s and 30s, and one rare photo of my Carib Indian great grandmother, taken in 1927. It is the only one in existence that I know of, which I recently shared with my

American cousin, who was completely blown away by it. He couldn't believe that I had this photo, but I am known somewhat as the "family historian", which began when I did the four generation genealogy back in the '80s. All of these are of great worth to me. I would never part with them, nor the photos of my children. But the journals are a pain in the arse, especially having to cart them around every time I move. I've kept all of my letter correpondence as well, and have an extremely rich collection. I even have my excommunication request letter, and a letter written by my brother in 1974, after we parted working together, which was quite prophetic. I also have correspondence with a member of the stake presidency in 1988, when he tried to dissuade me from going through with my excommunication. Those I will keep, but I think the personal journals are about to be thrown into Hades.

I also have some 2,000 pages (?) of correspondence with Max Nolan, a friend from Western Australia, where for 15 years we discussed mainly Mormonism, with letters sometimes going to 40 pages. Max died of cancer in 2000, so these letters have some interest for me, as well as looking at my perplexing journey through Mormonism over that crucial formative period.



RAY! Why would you delete them? DO NOT!

I've had bonfires in the past. The memories are still there. The things I still have speak to my growth.

Sometimes with time and distance it's nice to look back and recognize the change in ourselves.

PLEASE do not delete them! It's your history! Your life.
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barrelomonkeys wrote:
RAY! Why would you delete them? DO NOT!

I've had bonfires in the past. The memories are still there. The things I still have speak to my growth.

Sometimes with time and distance it's nice to look back and recognize the change in ourselves.

PLEASE do not delete them! It's your history! Your life.


Your thoughts will seriously be considered, Barrel. Thanks.
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

Ray, I have to second Barrel here: Please don't destroy the remainder of your journals! I think that would be tragic.

KA
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KimberlyAnn wrote:Ray, I have to second Barrel here: Please don't destroy the remainder of your journals! I think that would be tragic.

KA


Looks like I'm being outnumbered. Perhaps I should trust female intuition here.
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