Newsweek mag brings up LDS belief in post-life polygamy ....

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ozemc wrote:"Teenagers are nature's way of explaining why some animals eat their young".


OMG!

That is a signature-worthy phrase if I ever heard one!

Speaking as a mother of two teen-aged daughters!

LOL
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liz3564 wrote:Interesting article, Rollo.

I doubt that this would ever even pique interest, particularly by MSNBC if Mitt Romney wasn't running for President.

If he wins the nomination, I won't vote for him.

I would rather have Hillary for President. LOL


If Romney makes the ticket for the Republicans, I will vote for him. If for no other reason than his being a Mormon will make the next four years a very interesting ride for the observer.
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skippy the dead wrote:From the article:

LDS Church officials decline to answer specifically, saying only that "the Lord has not given answers to all the details of life after death. There are some things we simply don't know."


Yeah, nice dodge there. I guess when it comes time to make a statement to the public about the religion, all of a sudden it would appear that the church has no doctrine and has no clue as to what it believes. Niiiiice.


The hilarious thing about this dodge is that it completely and utterly eviscerates the whole "Families are Forever" message. The church claims that we can know that our families can be together forever. But if a wife dies, and the man marries another wife in the temple, this church spokesman dodge is basically saying that it's possible that the family resulting from the first marriage may not actually be together forever, or that its possible that the family created by the second marriage might not actually be together forever. They say we just don't know.

If you don't know, then shut the f*** up with your whole "thanks to the Restoration, we can now know that families are forever!" crap they hold up as so desirable to investigators.

Here's the bottom line:

The LDS church has no idea what will happen to your family after you're dead. Apparently the Lord has never revealed it. When they say your family will be together forever if you're sealed in the temple, don't believe it, because the church doesn't really believe that. The fate of your family after death is simply not known.
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skippy the dead wrote:From the article:

LDS Church officials decline to answer specifically, saying only that "the Lord has not given answers to all the details of life after death. There are some things we simply don't know."


Yeah, nice dodge there. I guess when it comes time to make a statement to the public about the religion, all of a sudden it would appear that the church has no doctrine and has no clue as to what it believes. Niiiiice.


What makes that statement even more hilarious is that Mormon God gives such detailed directions concerning how people should look that He has declared women may have only one pair of earrings, yet He supposedly leaves ambiguous any details of the afterlife for which so many Mormons abrogate their personal freedom.

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I see how it is possible after death that a man (or woman) who has had more than one spouse in this life will have non-polygamous life after death but still be with both women. Kinda hard to explain (and I am sure I will get flamed for it), but think about when you dream, and how as you dream through the night how one dream and the next do not "interact" with each other, and you are not aware of what you knew in the first dream while in the 2nd dream. I think that for the man who had two wives on earth, this would be the situation in the afterlife, what with one life w/one wife, and one w/the other without the two inter-mingling.

Not the standard answer, but it makes sense to me. An alternate answer I have heard is that pure true love can handle polygamy without any conflict, and in the afterlife, our love matures to that level. Not sure I can swallow that one, but an answer non the less.

As to why the church couldn't answer that I cannot say, other than the one asked didn't have the answer.
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Nephi wrote:<snip>

As to why the church couldn't answer that I cannot say, other than the one asked didn't have the answer.


It's a spokesperson for the church - they are supposed to have the answers available to them. If not, they surely know who to ask. And if they don't have an answer, they should not provide a comment. Not hard. It's just lame prevaricating, plain and simple. Or the church has no answers anymore, since the old men in suits at the top aren't all that interested in non-revenue generating activity.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:What makes that statement even more hilarious is that Mormon God gives such detailed directions concerning how people should look that He has declared women may have only one pair of earrings, yet He supposedly leaves ambiguous any details of the afterlife for which so many Mormons abrogate their personal freedom.

KA


It could also be possible Paul was right and there is no explanation for heaven to be found on Earth or expressed in language. It's a sad commentary on humanity that we can easily picture hell but when we picture heaven we either have the eternal family picnic or the staring at God for all eternity in circles approach. Dante almost makes hell preferable to heaven because it seems he's got nothing when he gets to that part.
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mocnarf wrote:
liz3564 wrote:Interesting article, Rollo.

I doubt that this would ever even pique interest, particularly by MSNBC if Mitt Romney wasn't running for President.

If he wins the nomination, I won't vote for him.

I would rather have Hillary for President. LOL


If Romney makes the ticket for the Republicans, I will vote for him. If for no other reason than his being a Mormon will make the next four years a very interesting ride for the observer.


I would reluctantly vote for him, only because of the prophecy of Hillary in the Book Of Revelation!
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liz3564 wrote:
ozemc wrote:"Teenagers are nature's way of explaining why some animals eat their young".


OMG!

That is a signature-worthy phrase if I ever heard one!

Speaking as a mother of two teen-aged daughters!

LOL


It's funny how they change from this sweet, loving little kid to this snarling, spiteful collection of raging hormones!

I think it was Mark Twain who said that he was suprised how much knowledge his father gained from the time he (Mark) went from 18 to 22. (Or something like that).
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Re: Newsweek mag brings up LDS belief in post-life polygamy

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Rollo Tomasi wrote:Below is a link to the belief.net article in the 9/3/07 issue of Newsweek:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20439107/site/newsweek/

I found it interesting how the LDS spokesperson was awfully coy about what the Church really believes concerning polygamy in the afterlife. Fortunately, Apostle Dallin Oaks knows the real deal, as he explained:

When I was 66, my wife June died of cancer. Two years later--a year and a half ago--I married Kristen McMain, the eternal companion who now stands at my side.

Ensign, October 2003, p. 10 (emphasis added).

I'm sure Mitt will have fun with this one ....




This seem disingenuous:

LDS Church officials decline to answer specifically, saying only that "the Lord has not given answers to all the details of life after death. There are some things we simply don't know."


If we really do not know then stop letting men be sealed to more then one woman. Certainly celestial polygamy is alive and well.
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