John Gee's book review and thoughts:

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Welcome to Ivory Tower apologetics.

I am beginning to think that this is precisely why Gee and Bokovoy chose their particular fields of expertise. They started their apologetic career before they got out of the gates. Bokovoy's first publication is going to try to prove the "biblical God" has sex for crying out loud. What's worse, they seem to think they can dismiss the world of valid criticism because they are elite. They rigged teh game from the start. They don't have to produce valid or compelling apologetics, because they think they are above reproach. Only other PhD carrying experts can criticize. Where their arguments fail - which is often - they fall back on the glory of being a bonafide scholar.


Yes, I noticed this many times on FAIR in the Mesoamerican discussions. That always struck me as ironic, given that one of the most respected experts in the field was self educated and respected for her expertise long before she obtained a degree in the subject. (Linda Schele)
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beastie wrote:You couldn't possibly be more satisfying than as you currently are.

Happy to be of service.
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Most people post their CVs online these days, no?
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It seems that we can add the relevant faculty of Brandeis University to the list of people (already including the relevant faculty of BYU, Berkeley, and Yale) who need to consult with some of the anonymous posters here in order to find out who's competent and intellectually honest and who's not.


Are you suggesting that Gee is producing Mormon apologia as part of his professional duties?
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Happy to be of service.


Thanks, although, of course, if I were a believer struggling with these issues, your style of participation could be distressing.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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Professor Gee is giving a paper in San Diego this November at the annual joint meeting of the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Biblical Literature, concerning, if I recall correctly, the possibility of there being an Egyptian version of Atramhasis. Perhaps you should go.


I'm just curious. Why isn't John Gee listed in the meeting's abstract?

http://www.sbl-site.org/Congresses/Cong ... eetingId=7
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Post by _harmony »

beastie wrote:
It seems that we can add the relevant faculty of Brandeis University to the list of people (already including the relevant faculty of BYU, Berkeley, and Yale) who need to consult with some of the anonymous posters here in order to find out who's competent and intellectually honest and who's not.


Are you suggesting that Gee is producing Mormon apologia as part of his professional duties?


His paycheck comes from BYU, doesn't it? He certainly can't produce work critical of the church as part of his professional duties! If he doesn't step up to the plate, he could well be teaching at UVSC next semester.
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Post by _evolving »

Kevin

what would possibly lead you to do a quick reference check ???

when DCP said
"Professor Gee is giving a paper in San Diego this November at the annual joint meeting of the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Biblical Literature"


I thought Holy cow! that would be cool to be there in San Diego attending that conference and possibly learn something --


you thought - man I better check the conference abstract to see if if DCP is blowing smoke again ??
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Post by _harmony »

dartagnan wrote:
Professor Gee is giving a paper in San Diego this November at the annual joint meeting of the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Biblical Literature, concerning, if I recall correctly, the possibility of there being an Egyptian version of Atramhasis. Perhaps you should go.


I'm just curious. Why isn't John Gee listed in the meeting's abstract?

http://www.sbl-site.org/Congresses/Cong ... eetingId=7


But... he has to be listed! He's the star presenter! His presentation will be jam-packed with supportive envious PhD's, all salivating to be allowed to breath the same air he does.

What do you mean, he's not listed?
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Post by _harmony »

evolving wrote:Kevin

what would possibly lead you to do a quick reference check ???

when DCP said
"Professor Gee is giving a paper in San Diego this November at the annual joint meeting of the American Academy of Religion and the Society of Biblical Literature"


I thought Holy cow! that would be cool to be there in San Diego attending that conference and possibly learn something --


you thought - man I better check the conference abstract to see if if DCP is blowing smoke again ??


*peering through the smoke*... what's he smokin' this time?
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