Trinity wrote:So the ONLY reason I can think of why Joseph would not have had sex with any particular wife of his (and Rollo's link attests that many of these women did admit to carnal relations) was because Emma was keeping him inside their bedroom, threatening him with a flaming sword if he dare share his seed with another woman.
Not to be mean, but I can think of reasons why he wouldn't have had sex with at least some of wives.
Rhoda Richards
This is kind of like what some women are able to use for birth control......
Nudity!!!
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My god!!!! She (???) really does look like Hitler!
Ha....Joseph stealth married Adolpha Hitler.....crazy!
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Scottie wrote:Well, since Book of Mormon has commanded that we post some new stuff, I'll throw this out there.
Although there is no smoking gun that Joseph Smith ever slept with any of his wives, what is your best evidence that he did?
Mine: Where, exactly, did the doctrine change from the way BY practiced it and how Joseph Smith practiced it? If there was no doctrinal changes, then aren't we forced to assume it was practiced in the same way?
Is ther anyone who argues that he did not sleep with many or most of his plural wives? Oh I know that some dispute that he consumated the marriages of the rather young ones or the polyandrous ones but not the others.
Jason Bourne wrote:Is ther anyone who argues that he did not sleep with many or most of his plural wives? Oh I know that some dispute that he consumated the marriages of the rather young ones or the polyandrous ones but not the others.
Yes, my daughter's seminary teacher told me a couple of months ago that Joseph Smith "married" women in name only as a charitable way to care for the mostly elderly wives. He said none were consummated.
SatanWasSetUp wrote:Hey, us men like variety. Sometimes we fantacize about nailing a supermodel, some days we would pay money to watch girl-on-girl action, and occasionally, not often, but every now and then we want Adolf Hitler in a dress.
Okay, the armchair WWII historian in me needs to make a brief appearance: It's spelled "Adolf," not "Adolph." Common mistake.
Now back to your regularly-scheduled programming.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Jason Bourne wrote:Is ther anyone who argues that he did not sleep with many or most of his plural wives? Oh I know that some dispute that he consumated the marriages of the rather young ones or the polyandrous ones but not the others.
Yes, my daughter's seminary teacher told me a couple of months ago that Joseph Smith "married" women in name only as a charitable way to care for the mostly elderly wives. He said none were consummated.
This is one excuse I never understood. Why in the hell is it required to marry someone in order to provide for them?? What happened to giving alms?? What? They couldn't just take care of the widows because they were widows? They had to be married first?
Scottie wrote:This is one excuse I never understood. Why in the hell is it required to marry someone in order to provide for them?? What happened to giving alms?? What? They couldn't just take care of the widows because they were widows? They had to be married first?
Apparently, it's easier to say this than to come to grips with what actually happened. You're right that when you think about this excuse, it falls apart rather quickly because it doesn't make sense.
I love to read the testimonies of the women who claimed that Joseph had slept with them. It took cajones to do that back in the late 19th century. And they weren’t any too ashamed of it, either. They were downright honored to have shared a bed with Joseph Smith.
Us good TBM guys have that effect on our women. If you don’t believe me, just ask my wife.
;-)
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Scottie wrote:This is one excuse I never understood. Why in the hell is it required to marry someone in order to provide for them?? What happened to giving alms?? What? They couldn't just take care of the widows because they were widows? They had to be married first?
Apparently, it's easier to say this than to come to grips with what actually happened. You're right that when you think about this excuse, it falls apart rather quickly because it doesn't make sense.
And of course the follow up question for the seminary teacher is why did the nature of polygamous marriage change with Brigham Young?
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