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_Bond...James Bond
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So how is this effecting your college work (If I recall correctly you're in graduate school for something religious or theological correct?) Are you still aiming for the same degree or whatever?
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Some Schmo wrote: How does one come to a belief about the unknowable stuff without at some point choosing among the many options out there?



That is the question!


Although I ask myself that question I still don't find any answers. Nor am I able to choose among the various options!
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I'm doing Christian history, so it doesn't really interfere.
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Bond...James Bond wrote:So how is this effecting your college work (If I recall correctly you're in graduate school for something religious or theological correct?) Are you still aiming for the same degree or whatever?


Bond...see Dr. Shades Grammar thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... 2336#72336
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liz3564 wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:So how is this effecting your college work (If I recall correctly you're in graduate school for something religious or theological correct?) Are you still aiming for the same degree or whatever?


Bond...see Dr. Shades Grammar thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... 2336#72336


Yes mother. :rolleyes:

;P
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"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
liz3564 wrote:
Bond...James Bond wrote:So how is this effecting your college work (If I recall correctly you're in graduate school for something religious or theological correct?) Are you still aiming for the same degree or whatever?


Bond...see Dr. Shades Grammar thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... 2336#72336


Yes mother. :rolleyes:


Sorry...couldn't help it....teacher and all that...

;)
_wenglund
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CaliforniaKid wrote: I also find myself intellectually ambivalent about the existence of God. I can't marshal much evidence one way or the other. So I guess that, at a purely logical level, I am an agnostic.

Having said that, what I feel does not accord with what I think. I feel that there is some God or cosmic plan out there guiding all of this. I feel a need to have a community. I feel a need to make a difference. I feel a need to abide by at least some of the moral strictures that are so a part of who I am. And I feel that a life lived according to purely abstract intellectual reflections is too boring to really be worth it.


This is interesting. From what I have observed, the tendency is to compromise/sacrifice the heart (feelings) in favor of the mind (intellect). Yet, you seem to be doing just the opposite.

No doubt this will strike the intellectual chauvanist as illogical. ;-)

For my part, I am working to marry the heart and mind and make them one, rather than divorce the two and go with one or the other. But, that may just be a personal preference. It works for me.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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wenglund wrote:This is interesting. From what I have observed, the tendency is to compromise/sacrifice the heart (feelings) in favor of the mind (intellect). Yet, you seem to be doing just the opposite.

No doubt this will strike the intellectual chauvanist as illogical. ;-)

For my part, I am working to marry the heart and mind and make them one, rather than divorce the two and go with one or the other. But, that may just be a personal preference. It works for me.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


That's pretty much my goal. The nice thing is that my mind tells me that Mormonism is false, and my heart tells me the same thing. It's just getting the two to agree what to do next that's the tricky part.
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wenglund wrote: For my part, I am working to marry the heart and mind and make them one, rather than divorce the two and go with one or the other. But, that may just be a personal preference. It works for me.


So what do you do when your feelings contradict your thoughts? Which one wins?

I like what Carl Sagan said on this: "I try not to think with my gut. If I'm serious about understanding the world, thinking with anything besides my brain, as tempting as that might be, is likely to get me into trouble."

He also said, "Where we have strong emotions, we're liable to fool ourselves."
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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Runtu wrote:
wenglund wrote:This is interesting. From what I have observed, the tendency is to compromise/sacrifice the heart (feelings) in favor of the mind (intellect). Yet, you seem to be doing just the opposite.

No doubt this will strike the intellectual chauvanist as illogical. ;-)

For my part, I am working to marry the heart and mind and make them one, rather than divorce the two and go with one or the other. But, that may just be a personal preference. It works for me.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-


That's pretty much my goal. The nice thing is that my mind tells me that Mormonism is false, and my heart tells me the same thing. It's just getting the two to agree what to do next that's the tricky part.


It's not so "tricky" when one has a positive conviction (feeling/believing a given belief system is good, right and true) rather than just a negative conviction (believing/feeling a belief system is false). At least that has been my experience.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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