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Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

And of course you met these elders right? And of course upon meeting them, you decided that they were scum.
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why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

Well that how I read it. The two women gave permission but the dad didn't. Also they sought their fortune somewhere else. It does say that right?

And I do need to remind everyone that the NYT reporter was not an eyewitness as far as I can understand. Does everyone believe 'all the news that fit to print'?


Its an account of the events that transpired, not an op-ed piece. Your defending of the missionaries actions is pretty sad.
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why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

And of course you met these elders right? And of course upon meeting them, you decided that they were scum.


Yep, I met them in a dream last night. They were scum. The Immigrants tried to kill them. That right there pretty much sums up their character right there.
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Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

And of course you met these elders right? And of course upon meeting them, you decided that they were scum.


Yep, I met them in a dream last night. They were scum. The Immigrants tried to kill them. That right there pretty much sums up their character right there.


Yeah, I prayed and received confirmation that they were scum. So between Mercury's Dream, and my spiritual confirmation it's pretty much proved that they were scum.
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

And of course you met these elders right? And of course upon meeting them, you decided that they were scum.


Yep, I met them in a dream last night. They were scum. The Immigrants tried to kill them. That right there pretty much sums up their character right there.


Yeah, I prayed and received confirmation that they were scum. So between Mercury's Dream, and my spiritual confirmation it's pretty much proved that they were scum.


By the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

Why me, the spirit has spoken and has found your (laughable) opinion wanting.
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I found this whole "No Polygamy for Them" article hilariously funny. Two Mormon missionaries have got a whole traincar full of people willing to emigrate over to Utah, with their transportation paid for (presumably by the church), and it's transparent that almost all of them have no clue about the Mormon practice of polygamy. Then a guy finds out his two sisters are going to get married to one of the missionaries when they get back, and the word spreads, and pretty soon there is literally a riot, with people kicking the crap out of these two missionaries.

Talk about informed consent. These people were suckered into the church, probably with inducements including free passage to America, the land of opportunity, and then literally riot when they find out that they're almost there, and discover that the church actually practices what is abhorrent to them, and nobody ever told them. Wow.
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Instead of a Dear John letter that missionary got Dear John whooping in person.
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Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

Well that how I read it. The two women gave permission but the dad didn't. Also they sought their fortune somewhere else. It does say that right?

And I do need to remind everyone that the NYT reporter was not an eyewitness as far as I can understand. Does everyone believe 'all the news that fit to print'?


Its an account of the events that transpired, not an op-ed piece. Your defending of the missionaries actions is pretty sad.

I don't think so. As Moshka demonstrated by revealing more archives, the antimormon sentiment was very strong in the US media. How can I trust that this reporter did not embellish the account? Or if what transpired truly transpired? Is'New Testament amazing just what we wish to believe in the media when it suits our purposes?
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why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:
Mercury wrote:
why me wrote:If I read this correctly, the two young women gave their permission to be married to the missionary. Perhaps the father did not like it. But then again, it seems that the problem came from intent. Since they all went off to seek their 'fortune'. perhaps this is why they came in the first place and needed an excuse to jump ship.


that's a naïve assumption being that the missionaries were lucky they escaped alive. Pass the blame over to the convert, that's right. I guess it all makes more sense when you don't want to accept responsibility for a fraud perpetuated by scum.

Well that how I read it. The two women gave permission but the dad didn't. Also they sought their fortune somewhere else. It does say that right?

And I do need to remind everyone that the NYT reporter was not an eyewitness as far as I can understand. Does everyone believe 'all the news that fit to print'?


Its an account of the events that transpired, not an op-ed piece. Your defending of the missionaries actions is pretty sad.

I don't think so. As Moshka demonstrated by revealing more archives, the antimormon sentiment was very strong in the US media. How can I trust that this reporter did not embellish the account? Or if what transpired truly transpired? Is'New Testament amazing just what we wish to believe in the media when it suits our purposes?


The "anti-mormon" sentiment does not account for this as there is no such thing as "anti-mormon" sentiment. The persecution complex is alive and well in Mormonism I see.

You are defending the actions of charlatans.
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