Watch Out! your daughters friend might be the Devil.

[_Jersey Girl]

Nehor,

This is one of very few topics related to Mormonism that actually illicits a strong response from me. I'll try not to show it, but I give you no guarantees!

Nehor: Ummm, the idea that the worst suggestions in life come from those we trust and like and who even love us is not a new thing.

Jersey Girl: Do you consider that some of the worst suggestions in life come from those you trust and like and who even love you...are coming from your church?

Nehor: Yes, LDS are encouraged to marry as soon as they find an appropriate partner after the age of 18 for girls or after their Missions for guys. Talking about this being waiting is kinda odd. Only in the last couple centuries would that apply. Compared to most of history we marry late.

Jersey Girl: We don't live in "most of history" we live now, Nehor.

Nehor: Yet another example of how we can never fit with current cultural norms. Where in the past we adhered to the norms of that day the people of today expect that 'with modern Prophets' we should have known more or done things differently. When we're completely different we're looked on as odd for not fitting in.

Jersey Girl: People marrying and/or marrying at a very young age (history not withstanding) are nothing new. Our social services systems are fairly glutted with them. I am paying for their education, rehabilitation, child care, their food, housing, medical care, legal services and their therapy.

What is positive about encouraging an RM let's say age 21 and a young woman, let's say she's age 19 who:

1. Most likely never held down a job
2. Have no education beyond high school
3. Who hold no property
4. Who have no savings ($)
5. Who have probably not even learned how to buy a car...

to bring a human being into this world and being responsible for it when they haven't learned how to be responsible for themselves?

I will start there....

[_barrelomonkeys]

I'll take the blame. I made it ten years without having babies (and sex?) luckily.

TEN YEARS without sex? Surely you jest! :O

[_gramps]

I'll take the blame. I made it ten years without having babies (and sex?) luckily.

TEN YEARS without sex? Surely you jest! :O

Well, maybe once or twice a year, but not more than that. Oh, how I wish that I was saying this in jest, but.....

Thank heavens for Japan. That country cured all my ills, in spades!

[_barrelomonkeys]

I'll take the blame. I made it ten years without having babies (and sex?) luckily.

TEN YEARS without sex? Surely you jest! :O

Well, maybe once or twice a year, but not more than that. Oh, how I wish that I was saying this in jest, but.....

Thank heavens for Japan. That country cured all my ills, in spades!

I would imagine so! :D

[_barrelomonkeys]

I think the next ex-mo conference should be held in Japan. :)

[_gramps]

I think the next ex-mo conference should be held in Japan. :)

I would even risk going in again for that kind of party. (Did I just say that?)

I think Japan would scare some of the ex-mos right back into church.

[_Scottie]

What is positive about encouraging an RM let's say age 21 and a young woman, let's say she's age 19 who:

1. Most likely never held down a job
2. Have no education beyond high school
3. Who hold no property
4. Who have no savings ($)
5. Who have probably not even learned how to buy a car...

to bring a human being into this world and being responsible for it when they haven't learned how to be responsible for themselves?

I will start there....

They have God on their side, and if they just obey the commandments and, most importantly, PAY THEIR TITHING, all their financial problems will be taken care of.

After all, it has been promised that if you diligently pay tithing, the windows of heaven will be open with blessing so much that you won't be able to receive them all.

[_Jersey Girl]

What is positive about encouraging an RM let's say age 21 and a young woman, let's say she's age 19 who:

1. Most likely never held down a job
2. Have no education beyond high school
3. Who hold no property
4. Who have no savings ($)
5. Who have probably not even learned how to buy a car...

to bring a human being into this world and being responsible for it when they haven't learned how to be responsible for themselves?

I will start there....

They have God on their side, and if they just obey the commandments and, most importantly, PAY THEIR TITHING, all their financial problems will be taken care of.

After all, it has been promised that if you diligently pay tithing, the windows of heaven will be open with blessing so much that you won't be able to receive them all.

Scottie,

You are so right and there are far reaching blessings to others! I have been richly blessed by the opportunity to provide financially for the chosen for their food, shelter, health care, education, childcare, rehabilitation, therapy, etc. What good is financial security without the sheer joy of giving it away to folks who can't do or think for themselves?

I tell you, every time that I've found myself in the position of reporting a child abuse case on the part of parents who value their DVD player more than their own child or supervised a 21 year old who doesn't know what work ethic is...my heart rejoices!

[_Scottie]

What is positive about encouraging an RM let's say age 21 and a young woman, let's say she's age 19 who:

1. Most likely never held down a job
2. Have no education beyond high school
3. Who hold no property
4. Who have no savings ($)
5. Who have probably not even learned how to buy a car...

to bring a human being into this world and being responsible for it when they haven't learned how to be responsible for themselves?

I will start there....

They have God on their side, and if they just obey the commandments and, most importantly, PAY THEIR TITHING, all their financial problems will be taken care of.

After all, it has been promised that if you diligently pay tithing, the windows of heaven will be open with blessing so much that you won't be able to receive them all.

Scottie,

You are so right and there are far reaching blessings to others! I have been richly blessed by the opportunity to provide financially for the chosen for their food, shelter, health care, education, childcare, rehabilitation, therapy, etc. What good is financial security without the sheer joy of giving it away to folks who can't do or think for themselves?

I tell you, every time that I've found myself in the position of reporting a child abuse case on the part of parents who value their DVD player more than their own child or supervised a 21 year old who doesn't know what work ethic is...my heart rejoices!

Sing it sistah!!!

[_barrelomonkeys]

I think the next ex-mo conference should be held in Japan. :)

I would even risk going in again for that kind of party. (Did I just say that?)

I think Japan would scare some of the ex-mos right back into church.

You did say that. ;)

Hahaaa