It is truly amazing to me...

[_Scottie]

Was I the only one listening at church when some of these subjects were being taught??

I posted a new thread at MAD talking about pre-ordination and how God must be affecting our free agency, otherwise, how could we possibly be in the right place at the right time to meet our pre-ordained eternal partner?

I said that I didn't know if this were doctrine or not, but I know it's widely taught.

Of course, the apologists (No Touch and Hammer) start in with the "I've never heard this taught...not even once".

This is the latest in several topics that I've mentioned as commonly taught (another being "don't look at anti material") which many members have "never heard taught before".

I know that I've heard the concept of pre-selected families many, MANY times in church. That we had spirit children waiting to come down, and that together in the pre-mortal existence, we decided to be a family. How is it possible they have never heard this??

[_Yoda]

Actually, the whole "knowing who your eternal companion was in heaven" concept is NOT official Mormon doctrine. It is a popular belief among Mormons, which began during the popularity of "Saturday's Warrior".

For the never-Mo's who may not be aware..."Saturday's Warrior" was a musical written by Dough Stewart, a Mormon playwright and composer, in the mid-70's. The musical was utilized as a missionary tool, and performed by BYU students, and various LDS musical touring groups.

"Saturday's Warrior" purported the idea that we actually fell in love in the pre-existance, and had chosen who was going to be in our family on earth.

It's a very sweet, romantic idea, but it is not official doctrine.

There have also been several occasions where the brethren have specifically come out and stated that "Saturday's Warrior" is fiction, and not official doctrine. I'll have to see if I can find the exact sources.

[_Scottie]

Actually, the whole "knowing who your eternal companion was in heaven" concept is NOT official Mormon doctrine. It is a popular belief among Mormons, which began during the popularity of "Saturday's Warrior".

For the never-Mo's who may not be aware..."Saturday's Warrior" was a musical written by Dough Stewart, a Mormon playwright and composer, in the mid-70's. The musical was utilized as a missionary tool, and performed by BYU students, and various LDS musical touring groups.

"Saturday's Warrior" purported the idea that we actually fell in love in the pre-existance, and had chosen who was going to be in our family on earth.

It's a very sweet, romantic idea, but it is not official doctrine.

There have also been several occasions where the brethren have specifically come out and stated that "Saturday's Warrior" is fiction, and not official doctrine. I'll have to see if I can find the exact sources.

Be that as it may, I've still heard it taught in church...A LOT.

[_Yoda]

Actually, the whole "knowing who your eternal companion was in heaven" concept is NOT official Mormon doctrine. It is a popular belief among Mormons, which began during the popularity of "Saturday's Warrior".

For the never-Mo's who may not be aware..."Saturday's Warrior" was a musical written by Dough Stewart, a Mormon playwright and composer, in the mid-70's. The musical was utilized as a missionary tool, and performed by BYU students, and various LDS musical touring groups.

"Saturday's Warrior" purported the idea that we actually fell in love in the pre-existance, and had chosen who was going to be in our family on earth.

It's a very sweet, romantic idea, but it is not official doctrine.

There have also been several occasions where the brethren have specifically come out and stated that "Saturday's Warrior" is fiction, and not official doctrine. I'll have to see if I can find the exact sources.

Be that as it may, I've still heard it taught in church...A LOT.

Oh, I agree that the posters on MAD who claimed they had never heard of this must have been living under a rock...LOL

But...just wanted to point out that it actually isn't official doctrine.

;)

[_truth dancer]

It's a very sweet, romantic idea, but it is not official doctrine.

And what is?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I've heard this teaching many times as well... along with all sorts of things that are now not considered doctrine.

Just because something was taught in church, believed by most, been confirmed by the HG, means nothing....

I am with Scottie on this... sometimes I think I was a part of a completely different church than the one others seem to attend.

~dancer~

[_Zoidberg]

Actually, the whole "knowing who your eternal companion was in heaven" concept is NOT official Mormon doctrine. It is a popular belief among Mormons, which began during the popularity of "Saturday's Warrior".

For the never-Mo's who may not be aware..."Saturday's Warrior" was a musical written by Dough Stewart, a Mormon playwright and composer, in the mid-70's. The musical was utilized as a missionary tool, and performed by BYU students, and various LDS musical touring groups.

"Saturday's Warrior" purported the idea that we actually fell in love in the pre-existance, and had chosen who was going to be in our family on earth.

I love that movie. It is the most psychedelic film I've ever seen. Gotta love the bright spandex leggings we wear in the pre-existence. I seriously think that people who made it were on acid. If they weren't... that would be really scary.

As for the foreordained families... I'm pretty sure no high-up GA has ever said anything to the extent. In fact, SWK said that soulmates were fiction and an illusion. I like to think that I have found my soulmate. It might be an illusion, but then I'm pretty sure the whole world is, so I'm okay with that.

On the other hand, this concept is often unofficially used to shame people into having more children (now the little spirits foreordained to come into your family will have to be born "in the darkest Afrcia" to a non-member family and won't ever join the Church). I have heard something like that taught by lay members on multiple occasions; must have been Saturday's Warrior influence.