"Women are NUTS" or "I have a date"

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_Lucretia MacEvil
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barrelomonkeys wrote:"eight something" = "ate something"


Duhhhh!

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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
keene wrote:But I have a new theory I'm testing out -- that is, never buy them /anything/. That includes meals. And that goes for the first 10 dates. Because, in all reality, I'm tired of "buying" someone's interest in me. In the long run, it feels no better than prostitution -- and there's less a chance of getting laid!


Huh? Is it just that I'm a generation or two older than you? Have things changed that much? I don't see why you would think of it as "buying someone's interest in you." This girl is already interested (and cute), so why not spend a little money, something reasonably within your means, of course, not the sugar daddy thing. Ten dates and no money spent ... won't girls even these days think you're a deadbeat and a cheapskate and bankrupt? How can that help your case?

I don't think I get the joke. I know what 69 is, but what does the "eight something" mean? (I'm not good at math either.)


The point of not spending money is more to project the correct image. In most normal situations, the woman is the "chooser" and the man the chosen. The unconsious game of normal courtship, where the man is paying for the dates, puts out this whole song and dance that is reminisient to a male peacock showing off his colors. I don't want to play like that. I want to reverse the roles. I want the women to prance in front of me, and try to win me.
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keene wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
keene wrote:But I have a new theory I'm testing out -- that is, never buy them /anything/. That includes meals. And that goes for the first 10 dates. Because, in all reality, I'm tired of "buying" someone's interest in me. In the long run, it feels no better than prostitution -- and there's less a chance of getting laid!


Huh? Is it just that I'm a generation or two older than you? Have things changed that much? I don't see why you would think of it as "buying someone's interest in you." This girl is already interested (and cute), so why not spend a little money, something reasonably within your means, of course, not the sugar daddy thing. Ten dates and no money spent ... won't girls even these days think you're a deadbeat and a cheapskate and bankrupt? How can that help your case?

I don't think I get the joke. I know what 69 is, but what does the "eight something" mean? (I'm not good at math either.)


The point of not spending money is more to project the correct image. In most normal situations, the woman is the "chooser" and the man the chosen. The unconsious game of normal courtship, where the man is paying for the dates, puts out this whole song and dance that is reminisient to a male peacock showing off his colors. I don't want to play like that. I want to reverse the roles. I want the women to prance in front of me, and try to win me.


I'll give you partial credit for this answer. :o) I agree that a man paying for all dates is outmoded, and that dating and courtship don't need to rely on that anachronism. But you lost me when you got to the part about reversing the roles. Rather, I think dating should be a more equal process, without one party playing his (or her) own private "game".
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skippy the dead wrote:
keene wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:
keene wrote:But I have a new theory I'm testing out -- that is, never buy them /anything/. That includes meals. And that goes for the first 10 dates. Because, in all reality, I'm tired of "buying" someone's interest in me. In the long run, it feels no better than prostitution -- and there's less a chance of getting laid!


Huh? Is it just that I'm a generation or two older than you? Have things changed that much? I don't see why you would think of it as "buying someone's interest in you." This girl is already interested (and cute), so why not spend a little money, something reasonably within your means, of course, not the sugar daddy thing. Ten dates and no money spent ... won't girls even these days think you're a deadbeat and a cheapskate and bankrupt? How can that help your case?

I don't think I get the joke. I know what 69 is, but what does the "eight something" mean? (I'm not good at math either.)


The point of not spending money is more to project the correct image. In most normal situations, the woman is the "chooser" and the man the chosen. The unconsious game of normal courtship, where the man is paying for the dates, puts out this whole song and dance that is reminisient to a male peacock showing off his colors. I don't want to play like that. I want to reverse the roles. I want the women to prance in front of me, and try to win me.


I'll give you partial credit for this answer. :o) I agree that a man paying for all dates is outmoded, and that dating and courtship don't need to rely on that anachronism. But you lost me when you got to the part about reversing the roles. Rather, I think dating should be a more equal process, without one party playing his (or her) own private "game".


I would love if it were that easy, but women's minds are, by nature, wired up in a way that makes the game the only form of communication. The "game" NEEDS to happen in some way or another, or a woman will just not feel anything. So, if it's going to have to happen anyway, it might as well work in my favor.
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What's the "game"? I'm not getting what you're saying Keene!
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keene wrote:
I would love if it were that easy, but women's minds are, by nature, wired up in a way that makes the game the only form of communication. The "game" NEEDS to happen in some way or another, or a woman will just not feel anything. So, if it's going to have to happen anyway, it might as well work in my favor.


Okay, I know I don't think like a "normal" woman, but this concept is so alien to me. Why do men think this? I've got a friend who is absolutely certain that if he ignores a woman he is interested in (and she reciprocates the interest), she will find him irresistible and want to make him hers forever. Needless to say, at the age of 40 he is unmarried (despite his desire to marry and raise a family); it has never once worked yet.

What say you, women of the board - is this how women really operate?
I may be going to hell in a bucket, babe / But at least I'm enjoying the ride.
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skippy the dead wrote:
keene wrote:
I would love if it were that easy, but women's minds are, by nature, wired up in a way that makes the game the only form of communication. The "game" NEEDS to happen in some way or another, or a woman will just not feel anything. So, if it's going to have to happen anyway, it might as well work in my favor.


Okay, I know I don't think like a "normal" woman, but this concept is so alien to me. Why do men think this? I've got a friend who is absolutely certain that if he ignores a woman he is interested in (and she reciprocates the interest), she will find him irresistible and want to make him hers forever. Needless to say, at the age of 40 he is unmarried (despite his desire to marry and raise a family); it has never once worked yet.

What say you, women of the board - is this how women really operate?


The problem with your friend is he's probably shifting too far into the ignorance. The key isn't to simply ignore, but to be unpredictable. Keep her thinking and working at it. Make it a challenge. Make it fun. Don't be clingy.

Ignoring won't work, but showing interest plainly doesn't, either.
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barrelomonkeys wrote:What's the "game"? I'm not getting what you're saying Keene!


The game is simply this: Women communicate through indirect means: Body language, voice tonality, quirky tests, etc. Men, on the other hand, are naturally more direct. However, because they don't feel they can be direct about 'relations', they become wussies.

So, the way I'm trying to learn to play, is by learning the indirect communication, so I can communicate directly indirectly.
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Oh Keene I disagree!

If a man ignores me I think he doesn't like me. So... I think not of him. If a man shows interest in me, and I'm interested in him, then I let him know that. I

No games. Pretty simple. I think?

Don't play games. I'm a woman that does not play games. Life too short for all that junk.
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barrelomonkeys wrote:Oh Keene I disagree!

If a man ignores me I think he doesn't like me. So... I think not of him. If a man shows interest in me, and I'm interested in him, then I let him know that. I

No games. Pretty simple. I think?

Don't play games. I'm a woman that does not play games. Life too short for all that junk.


But how do you first GET interest in him? Once the interest is there, then sure. But to get a girl interested in the first place? That's the game.
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