bcspace wrote:1. Your citation of the Klamecki article was poor research. I stand by that, and nothing you have said has suggested otherwise.
You have not shown it. I simply maintain it's better a better more believable reference then that of an activist. The poor research was in your initial attempt to smear it because of the other work it appeared in.
by the way, since no counter references were forth comming, I uped the ante anyway.2. I asked you what the compelling reason for denying homosexual marriage is.
And my answer is that there is no compelling reason for the state to legitimize such marriages.
You have not shown it. I simply maintain it's better a better more believable reference then that of an activist. The poor research was in your initial attempt to smear it because of the other work it appeared in.
by the way, since no counter references were forth comming, I upped the ante anyway.I disagree that one activist Trump's another.
Crappy research on the other side does not excuse crappy research on yours.
For what it's worth, I was not attempting to "smear" anything.
Rather, my reason for posting the source in which it appears was to suggest that it might not be a particularly scientific article (and that turned out to be the case) that may have an inherent bias (which also turned out to be the case). We should have been suspicious of the source.
And if you've noticed, I have not once attempted to "counter" your reference.
bcspace appears to live in some fantasy world in which he is some master researcher come here to school the unlettered plebes in how to do research.
Memo to bcspace, your research sucks. It is paper thin, kiddie pool shallow, and anything but exhaustive.
bcspace wrote:And to my numerous references in support of my point, an activist was quoted....which said that abuse within homosexual relationships is not higher than hetrosexual relationships.
Read you OWN reference. You will see it in black and white.
Do you have any references to gainsay it?
Between 25 percent and 33 percent of relationships between lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender partners include abuse, a rate equal to that of heterosexual relationships, according to a 1998 report released by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP).
People who are in any kind of homosexual relationship are far more prone to domestic violence with their partners.
http://www.4women.gov/owh/pub/factsheets/lesbian1.pdf
Do I need to reference another one?I don't have time to read this,
but for those who do, I'm curious about something. If the cited document identifies specific health risks related to lesbianism,
1. Check to see whether the risks are related to lesbianism itself (e.g., women having sex with women) or whether it's related to other factors, such as social interactions or pressures, tangential behaviors (e.g., lesbians are less likely to get pap smears), or what.
2. Balance out the unique health risks of lesbians to those of heterosexuals. That is, if lesbians have greater risk for something, do heterosexuals face greater risk exposure to something else. That is, take it in context and totality rather than citing specific things that fail to present a balanced, overall picture.
bcspace wrote:bcspace appears to live in some fantasy world in which he is some master researcher come here to school the unlettered plebes in how to do research.
Memo to bcspace, your research sucks. It is paper thin, kiddie pool shallow, and anything but exhaustive.
Where is the evidence that you have done any research at all?
bcspace wrote:Then you are simply ignorant of how to read a reference. No worries, it's correctable.
If a pedophile says incest is wrong, does that invalidate his point about incest?
Then so far you have not contributed anything to the discussion except invective.
Between 25 percent and 33 percent of relationships between lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender partners include abuse, a rate equal to that of heterosexual relationships, according to a 1998 report released by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP).This is clearly saying that the rate of abuse in homsoexual relationships is NOT HIGHER than hetrosexual relationships. It is saying that it is equal.
LGBT domestic violence still appears to be vastly under-reported, and appropriate services in most locations are not available.