The acceptability of using the word 'retarded'

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beastie wrote:
I think I've just been patronized ;)


Actually, I suspect she is reprimanding you for the use of the word "retarded" which several people around here are far too fond of, and really is very offensive.


I'm offended that you would think the word retarded is offensive. What next, will it become offensive to say I have a beard, when I clearly have long whiskers growing out of my chin?

Well, probably.

Being offensive, and offended, is a wonderful thing. Don't knock it quite so easily.
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The Nehor wrote:
No, I don't have the habit of running my jokes by God for approval. I thought we established that I was NOT making fun of them. I was making fun of US. Can't you be offended about that? I mocked you and me and everyone here. Or does it just sound more pious to be offended on behalf of people who aren't here? Nah.


Nehor! That is the point. You used these people as an insult! They are human beings. You used WHO and WHAT they are to defame others.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand?!
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keene wrote:
beastie wrote:
I think I've just been patronized ;)


Actually, I suspect she is reprimanding you for the use of the word "retarded" which several people around here are far too fond of, and really is very offensive.


I'm offended that you would think the word retarded is offensive. What next, will it become offensive to say I have a beard, when I clearly have long whiskers growing out of my chin?

Well, probably.

Being offensive, and offended, is a wonderful thing. Don't knock it quite so easily.


The word retarded is not offensive. Using the word as a slur (when there is a population of people with this disability!) is offensive.
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truth dancer wrote:It is about YOUR cruel nature that thinks it is somehow funny to make fun of those with mental disabilities.

Sorry but there is NO excuse you could come up with that makes it OK to make fun of those who are in need of compassion and love.


I'm gonna stick my neck on the chopping block and defend The Nehor. I think calling Nehor cruel is going too far. I think a more fair description of what has happened may be to characterize it as unsensitive, thoughtless, or perhaps boorish or ignorant. I see nothing in The Nehor's posts which cause me to suspect that he holds the mentally-challenged in contempt nor that he has malice for them. I think he's feeling a bit picked on right now and calling him cruel is just a bit too much for me.

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asbestosman wrote:
truth dancer wrote:It is about YOUR cruel nature that thinks it is somehow funny to make fun of those with mental disabilities.

Sorry but there is NO excuse you could come up with that makes it OK to make fun of those who are in need of compassion and love.


I'm gonna stick my neck on the chopping block and defend The Nehor. I think calling Nehor cruel is going too far. I think a more fair description of what has happened may be to characterize it as unsensitive, thoughtless, or perhaps boorish. I see nothing in The Nehor's posts which cause me to suspect that he holds the mentally-challenged in contempt nor that he has malice for them. I think he's feeling a bit picked on right now and calling him cruel is just a bit too much for me.

Can't we all just get along?


I agree with you asbestosman! I think Nehor meant no disrespect at all. I accept Nehor's apology and know he had no intention of being cruel.

Schmo on the other hand makes me get uppity!
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I'm gonna stick my neck on the chopping block and defend The Nehor. I think calling Nehor cruel is going too far. I think a more fair description of what has happened may be to characterize it as unsensitive, thoughtless, or perhaps boorish. I see nothing in The Nehor's posts which cause me to suspect that he holds the mentally-challenged in contempt nor that he has malice for them. I think he's feeling a bit picked on right now and calling him cruel is just a bit too much for me.

Can't we all just get along?


You're probably right, but the problem is that he's just the tail end of this problem. There are posters on this board who, despite being asked to refrain, continue to use the word as a slur, and have done so repeatedly. Sometimes it just reaches a tipping point. This is the first time I've seen Nehor do it, and he may be partly paying for the sins of those who have done so before him.

I think he's also partly paying for not handling the situation very well once it became apparent people found it offensive.
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barrelomonkeys wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
No, I don't have the habit of running my jokes by God for approval. I thought we established that I was NOT making fun of them. I was making fun of US. Can't you be offended about that? I mocked you and me and everyone here. Or does it just sound more pious to be offended on behalf of people who aren't here? Nah.


Nehor! That is the point. You used these people as an insult! They are human beings. You used WHO and WHAT they are to defame others.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand?!


It's so hard to understand because......

I'm retarded.....I mean, I'm a moron......I mean Mormon.....uhhhhh, oh crap.

Maybe this is a regional thing, it's not an offensive thing here. To all who find it offensive my sole intent was to make people laugh. IS THAT SO WRONG?!?!?!?!!?

Anyways, I'm laughing so it's all good. :)
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Oh! I give up!


Good grief.
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asbestosman wrote:
truth dancer wrote:It is about YOUR cruel nature that thinks it is somehow funny to make fun of those with mental disabilities.

Sorry but there is NO excuse you could come up with that makes it OK to make fun of those who are in need of compassion and love.


I'm gonna stick my neck on the chopping block and defend The Nehor. I think calling Nehor cruel is going too far. I think a more fair description of what has happened may be to characterize it as unsensitive, thoughtless, or perhaps boorish or ignorant. I see nothing in The Nehor's posts which cause me to suspect that he holds the mentally-challenged in contempt nor that he has malice for them. I think he's feeling a bit picked on right now and calling him cruel is just a bit too much for me.

Can't we all just get along?

I agree with the geek.
It was a dumb thing to say. And a tad insensitive.
But I don't think it was intentionally cruel.

Just a brief case of 'Packer'-itus.

...could just apologize though? You know - 'properly'...?

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Post by _The Nehor »

barrelomonkeys wrote:Oh! I give up!


Good grief.


I'm sorry Monkeys, I was having too much fun to stop. I apologize if I annoyed you. Bad day and I needed a laugh and so may have gone on a little too long.
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