Recently over at the board-that-we-must-not-name Will posted this entry which interested me:
I don't have the energy or inclination to get into it at present. And, frankly, I'm not sure there's much else that could be said at this juncture. Do a search for threads containing the search terms Book of Abraham and KEP, both in this forum and in the Pundits forum. Read the FAIR wiki. Some of the wiki stuff is outdated, but most of it is good and will at least bring you up to speed on the basics.
I hope to finish up a documentary-type of film on the topic during 2008. I hope that the film will become an essential resource for people looking into these questions. People who will appear in it include:
Kevin Barney Samuel Brown Christopher Smith Kerry Shirts (as soon as I get to Idaho Falls again -- hey, Kerry, my daughter is living up there now so it won't be long!) Mike Ash (I'll stop by on my way to Idaho.) Blake Ostler Brian Hauglid John Gee David Bokovoy (if he can get off his surfboard long enough to sit down for an interview!) Others (as yet unnamed) from whom I have not yet obtained consent for an interview. Several "rank and file" types whose faith has been either destroyed by or retained despite their coming to a knowledge of the "controversy" surrounding the Book of Abraham.
My bottom line for anyone looking into this topic for the first time is that nothing is as clear-cut as the critics would have you believe, and that many things that pass for "givens" among the critics at this point will be shown, in the not-to-distant-future to have been mistaken. There are good, qualified people working on this issue. The next year will no doubt see the publication of at least one (and perhaps two) complete separate sets of images of the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, then the discussion will really take off. When and if Brent Metcalfe ever submits to press his long-promised book (a collection of essays as I understand it) on the topic, it will no doubt spur even more apologetic work in response.
This will be interesting I think (well at least I can see CK live in person). So is this thing anywhere near being completed? Will it be posted on the Net for cheapskates like ole Bond?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
I'm surprised CK agreed to it. I don't trust the guy (schryver) as far as this endeavor goes. He's asked a number of critics to be in it, who have all declined. I'm sure if any of you critics wanted to be in it, he'd take volunteers.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
I believe Dan Vogel has met Will and they had a friendly and respectful encounter, so he can't be ALL bad ;)
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I believe Dan Vogel has met Will and they had a friendly and respectful encounter, so he can't be ALL bad ;)
I have met Will myself, and he isn't 'ALL bad'. He was actually a very nice guy.
I just wouldn't trust him when it comes to making a documentary about the Book of Abraham, critics, etc. But then again, if I were a scientologist critic, i probably wouldn't trust a scientology apologist either.
I've got nothing against the guy himself.
WK: "Joseph Smith asserted that the Book of Mormon peoples were the original inhabitants of the americas"
Will Schryver: "No, he didn’t." 3/19/08
Still waiting for Will to back this up...
Who Knows wrote:I've got nothing against the guy himself.
That's what Custar said about Sitting Bull, man.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
He asked me if he could interview me. He was even willing to fly out to Orlando or Atlanta to do it. But I do not know when exactly I will be back in the USA. I told him I was up for it, assuming I would be back next month.
“All knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it...Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality." - Albert Einstein
you know what he is going to do - he is going to have Gee write questions that he will ask them and then when there is pause - or a look upward for an answer then it will be a cut - it's going to be like a 60 minutes edit show. Then they are going show this to TBM and keep them in the fog and say look at the critics - they can't answer real questions.