How far is too far for suicidal thoughts?

_Nephi · Post by **_Nephi** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:21 pm

Topic says it all...

Post by **_Bond...James Bond** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:25 pm

When you start making specific plans for how to carry it out...it's too far.

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:31 pm

Get real time help. Now. Not on a message board. Don't spend time wondering how far the thoughts have gone - they're there now.

If you're really in Bowling Green, call this number:

BOWLING GREEN
Life Skills Helpline

Life Skills, Inc.

* 1-800-223-8913

_Nephi · Post by **_Nephi** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:36 pm

skippy the dead wrote:Get real time help. Now. Not on a message board. Don't spend time wondering how far the thoughts have gone - they're there now.

If you're really in Bowling Green, call this number:

BOWLING GREEN
Life Skills Helpline

Life Skills, Inc.

* 1-800-223-8913

No offense to them, but “F” lifeskills. I deal w/them enough already with my children.

_Nephi · Post by **_Nephi** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:38 pm

Bond...James Bond wrote:When you start making specific plans for how to carry it out...it's too far.

Not there, then...

Post by **_KimberlyAnn** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:40 pm

God knows I'm not immune to depression myself and I don't know just what to say, but if I can do anything to help, would you let me know?

Like Skippy, I think you should call the hotline. Couldn't hurt. Why not try?

KA

Post by **_skippy the dead** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:41 pm

Nephi wrote:
skippy the dead wrote:Get real time help. Now. Not on a message board. Don't spend time wondering how far the thoughts have gone - they're there now.

If you're really in Bowling Green, call this number:

BOWLING GREEN
Life Skills Helpline

Life Skills, Inc.

* 1-800-223-8913

No offense to them, but “F” lifeskills. I deal w/them enough already with my children.

That was the first number google came up with. You can also try the national hotline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255).

No harm in calling, if you've really got some suicidal ideation.

_Nephi · Post by **_Nephi** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:48 pm

skippy the dead wrote:
Nephi wrote:
skippy the dead wrote:Get real time help. Now. Not on a message board. Don't spend time wondering how far the thoughts have gone - they're there now.

If you're really in Bowling Green, call this number:

BOWLING GREEN
Life Skills Helpline

Life Skills, Inc.

* 1-800-223-8913

No offense to them, but “F” lifeskills. I deal w/them enough already with my children.

That was the first number google came up with. You can also try the national hotline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255).

No harm in calling, if you've really got some suicidal ideation.

I've had them for a while, but I love my children too much to act upon them. However, I would like it if I could just silence them, they are depressing in and of themselves.

Post by **_Doctor Steuss** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:14 am

Bond...James Bond wrote:When you start making specific plans for how to carry it out...it's too far.

I think the above is true.

In my experience, I’m not necessarily in danger when I have suicidal ideations. Thinking about “ending it” is not the “too far” aspect. When you start to think of “how’s” (i.e. methods to accomplish the thoughts) it has gone too far, and it is best to simply pack an overnight bag (or, in my case, just grab the overnight bag I always have packed), let someone I trust (who is nearby) know what is happening, and dial 911.

However, if the thoughts of "ending it" have been persistent for more than a few consecutive days, it's evident that an intervention of some sort is needed before it gets to the "how's."

I know you have no reason to listen to me (as I’ve pretty much pissed on any chances of you ever having any modicum of respect for my views and/or opinions), but if you have had these thoughts for a few consecutive days and it is beginning to impact your ability to carry out a “normal” life, then please get some help.

It’s all about having coping mechanisms to outweigh the depression. If you can’t add any coping mechanisms, or the ones currently at your disposal aren’t working, it’s time to reach out and either get in a situation where you won’t be in danger, or where more coping mechanisms can be added.

http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

As someone who has felt the grip of death’s coils brought about through my own actions, and survived (through chance, G-d, luck, or whatever you want to ascribe to my still being here), I can tell you that it does get better eventually. You may have days or weeks (or in my case, months or years) where you can’t see through the darkness and every day is a painful reminder of why you would be better off gone. But, eventually there will be that moment that makes you realize that surviving was worth it. If you had gone, you never would have known that moment…and that moment is so much sweater when contrasted against the bitterness that preceded it.

Post by **_Runtu** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:21 am

I tried to kill myself back in June. I had been having thoughts for several days, but it went from not planning anything to actually attempting in a very short time. I second what Steuss said. If you've been thinking about it for a while, you need to get help because in that moment when it changes from thoughts to actions, it might be too late.