Intelligent Design program on PBS

Post by **_The Dude** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:54 pm

Some Schmo wrote:I haven't seen it so I can't judge them.

See the last post on page 1.

Post by **_Some Schmo** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:42 pm

The Dude wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:I haven't seen it so I can't judge them.

See the last post on page 1.

:)

No, I meant I haven't seen the documentary, so I can't judge the validity of comments made about it.

I'm about to watch it now, though.

Post by **_cksalmon** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:50 pm

Just finished watching the documentary online.

Assuming that proponents of evolution were misrepresenting statements, taking things out of context, and just generally being unscrupulously partisan, I was quite disappointed (but enlightened) to discover that, indeed, ID is merely a repackaging of creationism--if not by theorists like Behe, then certainly at the popular level. The case against the school board seems to be really quite damning.

"cdesign proponentists," indeed.

I don't necessarily have any particular dog in this fight, but it appears that the Panda People were more than a bit unscrupulous here. That's more disappointing to me than the judge's ruling could ever be.

CKS

Post by **_Mister Scratch** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:54 pm

The Dude wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:I haven't seen it so I can't judge them.

See the last post on page 1.

Hey, Dude---if you don't mind my asking, from whence came your sig line? I.e., what was the context?

Post by **_The Dude** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:24 pm

Mister Scratch wrote:Hey, Dude---if you don't mind my asking, from whence came your sig line? I.e., what was the context?

Oh, the new one from YH8? That was this morning. The context... doesn't really help anymore than context helps you follow the spastic ejaculations of a Tourette's sufferer.... but it was blurted in this post:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208302491

Post by **_The Dude** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:27 pm

cksalmon wrote:Just finished watching the documentary online.

Assuming that proponents of evolution were misrepresenting statements, taking things out of context, and just generally being unscrupulously partisan, I was quite disappointed (but enlightened) to discover that, indeed, ID is merely a repackaging of creationism--if not by theorists like Behe, then certainly at the popular level. The case against the school board seems to be really quite damning.

There's got to be a typo in that first line.

Proponents of evolution were not misrepresenting...

or

Opponents of evolution were misrepresenting...

??

Post by **_Runtu** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:28 pm

The Dude wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:Hey, Dude---if you don't mind my asking, from whence came your sig line? I.e., what was the context?

Oh, the new one from YH8? That was this morning. The context... doesn't really help anymore than context helps you follow the spastic ejaculations of a Tourette's sufferer.... but it was blurted in this post:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 1208302491

I saw that. I believe that was the same thread wherein he said he didn't dislike you personally. I spit out some Dr. Pepper when I read that.

Post by **_cksalmon** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:32 pm

The Dude wrote:
cksalmon wrote:Just finished watching the documentary online.

Assuming that proponents of evolution were misrepresenting statements, taking things out of context, and just generally being unscrupulously partisan, I was quite disappointed (but enlightened) to discover that, indeed, ID is merely a repackaging of creationism--if not by theorists like Behe, then certainly at the popular level. The case against the school board seems to be really quite damning.

There's got to be a typo in that first line.

Proponents of evolution were not misrepresenting...

or

Opponents of evolution were misrepresenting...

??

No, it's right. I went into the documentary assuming (purely on bias) "that proponents of evolution were misrepresenting statements, taking things out of context, and just generally being unscrupulously partisan" (with regard to the Dover case).

I found out that I was wrong.

CKS

Post by **_Some Schmo** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:58 am

That was pretty enjoyable. It occurred to me while watching it that I didn't really know the details of the ID "theory"; all this time, I had thought it basically amounted to "god set evolution in motion" and that some things were "irreducibly complex." I had no idea it held that some species just popped into existence. That made me ROTFLMAO.

It never ceases to amaze and entertain me how stupid people sound when they start talking about the supernatural as though it's a reasonable explanation for anything. It's an embarrassment to the human race.

Post by **_Sethbag** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:01 am

Some Schmo wrote:It never ceases to amaze and entertain me how stupid people sound when they start talking about the supernatural as though it's a reasonable explanation for anything. It's an embarrassment to the human race.

That may be, but it's also genetically hard-wired into us to be predisposed to such ideas. How ironic that irony itself is hard-wired into our genes, no?