Looks like Iowa is going to Huckabee with Romney taking quite a shot on the chin.
For the Democrats it looks like Obama is taking the cake, Hilary and Edwards are too close to call.
THe three Democrats are neck and neck
Romney did take a hit but let's see how Romney does and how Huckabee is ignored, in a state that is not as heavy with fundies Course this may be a forbearer for Romney in states with EV bigots.
CFR, Jason. I'd like to see the stats on religious bigotry on the states you allude to. Thanks. You're like a broken record. Let me ask, is there ANY reason a decent, reasonable person would NOT vote for Romney outside of religious persuasion? Maybe? Could be? Possibly? Even an evangelical?
OMG! I can't sleep I'm so fricken excited! Woop! A black man won a primary in the United States of America by a significant margin! I am just in a tizzy giddy right now.
Moniker wrote:I didn't like Edwards speech at all. Practically put me into snooze mode. A bit negative, I thought. Enjoyed Hillary's speech quite a bit as she was positive and inclusive.
Watching Huckabee now.
What fun!
I loved the speech on Fox News by Romney (he does look Presidential doesn't he? And has a silver voice.)...but it wasn't as good as the one with Huckabee's campaign manager (a dumpy sortof old man) who said "yeah that tall leggy blonde was my wife. We snuck away for a private lunch and apparently the one other person in the restaurant was the blogger who is writing about us. It was a private conversation and I don't want to talk about any of the stuff I said".
Yah, Romney is smooth, he does appear Presidential. Huckabee seems more like the "average" guy, though and he just seems more personable, to me, which usually resonates with voters. Missed the campaign manager thing. Did you see the percentage of evangelicals that showed up? Four years ago, apparently those that self identified as born again or EVs were at 30 something percent. This time it was over 50% that self identified themselves as such that came out in force to vote for Huckabee.
Also, I just want to state that it makes me so proud that in a state where there is a 2% African American population that an African American man won the Democratic primary. That pleases me.
Watching Obama now. Good start. It is a defining moment in history. Truly. :)
CFR, Jason. I'd like to see the stats on religious bigotry on the states you allude to.
I do not think there are stats on such things. do you?
Thanks.
You are welcome.
You're like a broken record.
Am I now.
Let me ask, is there ANY reason a decent, reasonable person would NOT vote for Romney outside of religious persuasion? Maybe? Could be? Possibly? Even an evangelical?
Well gee whilickers if I am a broken record you would know that I have said many times that not voting for Romney or anyone due to political reasons is just fine. Not voting for him because he is Mormon, it that is the main reason, is bigotry.
Does it not seem odd that Huckabee won Iowa due to the fact that he is a Baptist Minister and the EV turn out was 50% of the vote and it was WAY up on that over prior years.......
CFR, Jason. I'd like to see the stats on religious bigotry on the states you allude to.
I do not think there are stats on such things. do you?
Yes, matter of fact I do. Find the states that are predominantly EV in nature (I'd start with the South) and then see how Romney and Huckabee compare in the polls. Seems fairly simple to me. Matter of fact I've already done that but I want you to present your case. I'm not doing it for you. If you can break it down even further within self define religions that'd be great. If you can't then why are you consistently calling those that oppose Romney and support Huckabee (that also happen to be EV) bigots?
Let me ask, is there ANY reason a decent, reasonable person would NOT vote for Romney outside of religious persuasion? Maybe? Could be? Possibly? Even an evangelical?
Well gee whilickers if I am a broken record you would know that I have said many times that not voting for Romney or anyone due to political reasons is just fine. Not voting for him because he is Mormon, it that is the main reason, is bigotry.
Does it not seem odd that Huckabee won Iowa due to the fact that he is a Baptist Minister and the EV turn out was 50% of the vote and it was WAY up on that over prior years.......
So when Huckabee only gets 2% support in Utah and Romney over 60% are the LDS bigots? It doesn't seem odd to me. People identify with those that they have something in common with. THIS is what being a candidate is -- selling your image and trying to find commonalities that the general populace will respond to.
You don't know the justifications of those votes. You make speculations as to their motives and you throw the term bigot about. Make a case for it. Please.
Hello,
If Mitt Romney wants to gets the Republican Nomination for President, he is going to have to win in New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday. If Mitt Romney doesn’t win in New Hampshire this coming Tuesday, he will Not get the Republican Nomination for President. I give him about a 50% chance of winning New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday there.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Brackite wrote:Hello, If Mitt Romney wants to gets the Republican Nomination for President, he is going to have to win in New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday. If Mitt Romney doesn’t win in New Hampshire this coming Tuesday, he will Not get the Republican Nomination for President. I give him about a 50% chance of winning New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday there.
I agree. He needs to win NH.
In other news Sen Joe Biden and Sen Chris Dodd (who by the way is married to an LDS woman according to Wikipedia [small world]) withdrew after last nights caucus. Did anyone else?
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
CFR, Jason. I'd like to see the stats on religious bigotry on the states you allude to.
I do not think there are stats on such things. do you?
Yes, matter of fact I do. Find the states that are predominantly EV in nature (I'd start with the South) and then see how Romney and Huckabee compare in the polls. Seems fairly simple to me. Matter of fact I've already done that but I want you to present your case. I'm not doing it for you. If you can break it down even further within self define religions that'd be great. If you can't then why are you consistently calling those that oppose Romney and support Huckabee (that also happen to be EV) bigots?
Let me ask, is there ANY reason a decent, reasonable person would NOT vote for Romney outside of religious persuasion? Maybe? Could be? Possibly? Even an evangelical?
Well gee whilickers if I am a broken record you would know that I have said many times that not voting for Romney or anyone due to political reasons is just fine. Not voting for him because he is Mormon, it that is the main reason, is bigotry.
Does it not seem odd that Huckabee won Iowa due to the fact that he is a Baptist Minister and the EV turn out was 50% of the vote and it was WAY up on that over prior years.......
So when Huckabee only gets 2% support in Utah and Romney over 60% are the LDS bigots? It doesn't seem odd to me. People identify with those that they have something in common with. THIS is what being a candidate is -- selling your image and trying to find commonalities that the general populace will respond to.
You don't know the justifications of those votes. You make speculations as to their motives and you throw the term bigot about. Make a case for it. Please.
No time now
And yes some LDS can be bigoted in their religous views too.
And really I am not sure I want to pursue it. Tell ya what. I will try to refrain from the accusation. And I agree. This is a fun presidential race. Nothing like it in my adult life. It is wide open really on both sides. Obama's upset was cool! Not expected really.