The Great Presidential Campaign Thread

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_Jason Bourne
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Brackite wrote:Hello,
If Mitt Romney wants to gets the Republican Nomination for President, he is going to have to win in New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday. If Mitt Romney doesn’t win in New Hampshire this coming Tuesday, he will Not get the Republican Nomination for President. I give him about a 50% chance of winning New Hampshire this coming up Tuesday there.


Currently Romney is at 29% and ahead of McCain by 4%.
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beastie wrote:
Yep, the neocons always wanted to go into Iraq which is why Powell called them "f***ing crazies". :)

But, I'm talking politics here, and the politics of the day essentially hogtied Clinton. It would appear that there would be MORE of a threat during Clinton's presidency (if WMD were ever there) than the Bush presidency. Yet, politics in D.C. muddled the entire thing. The ONLY reason Bush got in was because the frenzy after 9-11, or it wouldn't have happened.


Yes, I agree with you. I was quoting from the neocons to give coggie evidence that Bush always planned to invade Iraq.

I well remember the "wag the dog" accusations, and the hissy fit the republicans pitched when Clinton bombed the "aspirin factory" in Afghanistan to try and get Bin Laden.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/20/us.strikes.01/

It appears Clinton knew that he was going to be accused of "wag the dog" considering the timing around the ML, so the fact that he ignored that inevitability and still tried to get bin laden demonstrates that at least he took bin laden seriously, unlike those who would later ignore the warning "bin laden determined to attack inside the US".



ooooooooo beastie you are stealing my thunder! I was waiting to spring the "aspirin factory" on Coggies. ;) Isn't this fun?
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beastie wrote:
Anyway, Bond why don't you split all this stuff down to off-topic... unless Beastie minds? Beastie do you mind? This totally diverted from the election.



That's fine with me. I don't intend to pursue this with coggins much longer. I can only take him in small doses.


Yah. I expect some time soon (or next few days) he'll come storming back in with copy and pasted stuff that he thinks will help him out here. I can't do it too long with Coggies. It really does exasperate me.

Going back into "frothy vacant" mode.
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beastie wrote:
Yep, the neocons always wanted to go into Iraq which is why Powell called them "f***ing crazies". :)

But, I'm talking politics here, and the politics of the day essentially hogtied Clinton. It would appear that there would be MORE of a threat during Clinton's presidency (if WMD were ever there) than the Bush presidency. Yet, politics in D.C. muddled the entire thing. The ONLY reason Bush got in was because the frenzy after 9-11, or it wouldn't have happened.


Yes, I agree with you. I was quoting from the neocons to give coggie evidence that Bush always planned to invade Iraq.

I well remember the "wag the dog" accusations, and the hissy fit the republicans pitched when Clinton bombed the "aspirin factory" in Afghanistan to try and get Bin Laden.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/20/us.strikes.01/

It appears Clinton knew that he was going to be accused of "wag the dog" considering the timing around the ML, so the fact that he ignored that inevitability and still tried to get bin laden demonstrates that at least he took bin laden seriously, unlike those who would later ignore the warning "bin laden determined to attack inside the US".


The thing was if he did nothing he was criticized. If he did anything he was criticized. It wasn't about policy, it was about the country, it wasn't about anything other than they HATED Clinton. And that's all it was.
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

Moniker wrote:Yah. I expect some time soon (or next few days) he'll come storming back in with copy and pasted stuff that he thinks will help him out here. I can't do it too long with Coggies. It really does exasperate me.

Going back into "frothy vacant" mode.


The split material can be found here:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... 43&start=0
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Bond...James Bond wrote:
Moniker wrote:Yah. I expect some time soon (or next few days) he'll come storming back in with copy and pasted stuff that he thinks will help him out here. I can't do it too long with Coggies. It really does exasperate me.

Going back into "frothy vacant" mode.


The split material can be found here:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/discus ... 43&start=0


Oops, I kept posting. Woopsie!
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

I moved this thread to the Off Topic so I could sticky it....I'm a mod and that's how I roll (plus it's an ongoing topic that is probably fairly interesting to a few posters who want to keep up with the campaign).
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
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Post by _Jason Bourne »

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ...New Hampshire GOP Primary. Mitt Romney. 31%. John McCain. 27%. Rudy Giuliani. 13%. Mike Huckabee. 11%. Ron Paul. 7%. Fred Thompson. 3%. Tom Tancredo ...
www.rasmussenreports.com/..
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So it appears that Ron Paul was behind the anti-mormon push poll. Durn. I was hoping it was Guiliani, who is the one I really can't stand. I had originally heard the polling company responsible for the push poll is actually owned and run by Mormons. How odd.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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beastie wrote:So it appears that Ron Paul was behind the anti-mormon push poll. Durn. I was hoping it was Guiliani, who is the one I really can't stand. I had originally heard the polling company responsible for the push poll is actually owned and run by Mormons. How odd.


Ron Paul? Wow.
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