Agnatic primogeniture: The method of heavenly succession?

[_moksha]

Agnatic primogeniture

Agnatic primogeniture or patrilineal primogeniture is inheritance according to seniority of birth among the children of a monarch or head of family, with sons inheriting before brothers, and male-line descendants inheriting before collateral relatives in the male line, and to the total exclusion (according to some sources) of females and descendants through females. - Wikipedia

Is this the preferred Heavenly method? Have historical monarchies been divinely inspired by this model? Is the tendency for enlightened democracy an unholy governing method brought forth by the secularists?

[_harmony]

Agnatic primogeniture

Agnatic primogeniture or patrilineal primogeniture is inheritance according to seniority of birth among the children of a monarch or head of family, with sons inheriting before brothers, and male-line descendants inheriting before collateral relatives in the male line, and to the total exclusion (according to some sources) of females and descendants through females. - Wikipedia

Is this the preferred Heavenly method? Have historical monarchies been divinely inspired by this model? Is the tendency for enlightened democracy an unholy governing method brought forth by the secularists?

Awfully deep thinkin for a lil penguin right at the start of the holiday season.

Democracy is an unholy governing method? Only when it's the men in charge!

[_moksha]

Awfully deep thinkin for a lil penguin right at the start of the holiday season.

Yes, I did find that part alarming too.

[_charity]

I believe, as the Book of Mormon states, that the very best form of government is a righteous king. But since we can't depend on men to be righteous, especially when they become kings, then an elected form of government is best.

I think the Heavenly pattern could possible have led to the establishment of those forms of government on earth.

[_The Nehor]

Agnatic primogeniture

Agnatic primogeniture or patrilineal primogeniture is inheritance according to seniority of birth among the children of a monarch or head of family, with sons inheriting before brothers, and male-line descendants inheriting before collateral relatives in the male line, and to the total exclusion (according to some sources) of females and descendants through females. - Wikipedia

Is this the preferred Heavenly method? Have historical monarchies been divinely inspired by this model? Is the tendency for enlightened democracy an unholy governing method brought forth by the secularists?

Awfully deep thinkin for a lil penguin right at the start of the holiday season.

Democracy is an unholy governing method? Only when it's the men in charge!

MATRIARCHY FOREVER!!!!

[_Valorius]

The Celestial Kingdom will without a doubt be a fascist government. It will take a strong force, augmented with an aggressive propaganda arm and a system of rewards in the form of hierarchical promotions to keep everyone on the straight and narrow, once they are all given all that infinite "free will".

Everything exists in opposition, the Book of Mormon (as well as dialectical materialism) teaches us. Therefore, for there to be balance in the Celestial Kingdom, Free Will must be balanced by Restrictive Measures. Otherwise the place will just fly apart.

Who assigns the stars and planets to the new gods?

[_Tidejwe]

The Celestial Kingdom will without a doubt be a fascist government. It will take a strong force, augmented with an aggressive propaganda arm and a system of rewards in the form of hierarchical promotions to keep everyone on the straight and narrow, once they are all given all that infinite "free will".

Everything exists in opposition, the Book of Mormon (as well as dialectical materialism) teaches us. Therefore, for there to be balance in the Celestial Kingdom, Free Will must be balanced by Restrictive Measures. Otherwise the place will just fly apart.

Who assigns the stars and planets to the new gods?

Perhaps. After all, God apparently throws in prison for eternity EVERYONE who ever disagrees with him in the least bit. Call the Terrestrial and Telestial kingdoms what you will, but in the end based on the traditional LDS interpretations of them...they are by definition a prison.

Personally, I've always thought Heaven and the briefly mentioned "council of Gods", if it exists, is run similarly to how life would be run in a "technological singularity" here in mortality. If such a thing actually came to fruition then EVERYONE would have untold powers based on technology. With everyone being equally powerful, the only kind of possible order is through purely democratic means. In general, the "Righteous" or those with humanistic tendencies would be more prone to be unified, while the "WICKED" and selfish, etc would be more prone to be divided. Thus the united would be in control because if person A B & C are all equally powerful, but A & B unite together in a common cause against C, it stands to reason that C would fall.

Hence the argument of HOW "God would cease to be God" as mentioned by some leaders if He did certain things. It's not that He'd magically disappear or anything, but arguably would be removed from the position of God of this world by the council of Gods. So the theory goes that God cannot sin or He would cease to be God...dethroned if you will by peers. Meh, pure Mormon speculation, but interesting to consider.

So assuming there are MANY exalted beings, then it would be run entirely democratically. I find it interesting that when you read the scriptures it is obvious that these Exalted powers seem to be TAUGHT rather than earned by some worthiness. AFter all, Satan has powers and priesthoods according to the Temple and elsewhere. He must've learned such from God while a Son of the Morning. He didn't suddenly lose his power because of wickedness, but lost the right to LEARN more powers/knowledge under the hand of God. Now God only teaches these powers to those who PROVE blind obedience and devotion to Him. If you prove yourself to be 100% in agreement with God's philosophy, then He'll agree to teach you powerful things. If you are out of harmony with God's philosophies, then DAMN YOU! He'll lock you in a (very nice) prison for eternity! This ensures that only those of God's philosophy and opinions hold power! By this method He continues to keep things UNBALANCED in His favor. Do not believe for a minute that God actually agrees with Lehi that "there needs be opposition in ALL things". Thus we see the traditionally accepted God only shares His knowledge and power with those who agree with him, and blindly obey...yet many people continue to blindly follow Him, no matter how unethical some of His actions are, simply because He promises them lots of cool rewards and tells them He created them so we OWE Him one.

Meh...I'm not one for believing in a traditional God, let alone a traditional Mormon interpretation of God, but that's how I understand Traditional views to be...scary...

Anyway, I really believe that if there multiple beings with untold exalted powers, it would essentially be run more like a democracy. It's possible it could turn into more of an empire as the OP suggests though. If one person gets enough "Followers" to blindly believe and support them, they can control the divided masses of others. Weed out the dissenters as they're discovered and throw them in outer darkness or something. Or as Brigham Young claims will happen to Satan/sons of perdition: "Disorganize" their intelligences from their spirit and physical body and put them back in the pool of intelligences and make them start over again. *POOF* No more enemy/dissenters that can rebel. Brilliant! Heaven. . . sounds like a nightmare fantasy novel I should write up...

[_Valorius]

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<Valorius, all googly-eyed>

. . . " Master ! ! "

I want to join your church and follow you everywhere.

[_Tidejwe]

So assuming there are MANY exalted beings, then it would be run entirely democratically. I find it interesting that when you read the scriptures it is obvious that these Exalted powers seem to be TAUGHT rather than earned by some worthiness. AFter all, Satan has powers and priesthoods according to the Temple and elsewhere. He must've learned such from God while a Son of the Morning. He didn't suddenly lose his power because of wickedness, but lost the right to LEARN more powers/knowledge under the hand of God. Now God only teaches these powers to those who PROVE blind obedience and devotion to Him.

More support for this theory (of Godly powers being TAUGHT rather than suddenly earned at "exaltation" is to consider that Jesus/Jehovah was technically a "God" before he even received a Mortal body, let alone became "Exalted". Jehovah had all knowledge and power, and based on the definition provided in D&C that means He was a god even before he was exalted. So it appears that Jehovah/Jesus LEARNED Eternal knowledge and powers because God taught them to Him even before he'd achieved exaltation and why we see that Satan supposedly has powers and priesthoods even though he never received exaltation. Exaltation is simply a title or stage, like calling it "Graduation". You could theoretically learn powers before you graduate into exaltation. Just a thought.

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<Valorius, all googly-eyed>

. . . " Master ! ! "

I want to join your church and follow you everywhere.

I am unsure of how this post is meant to come across (Sarcastic? Mocking? Complimentary? Not even addressed to me? etc), but I guess I'll take it as a compliment. lol

[_Valorius]

Apologies, Tidejwe.

It was a compliment. Your are worth listening to!

I might not follow you anywhere, but you show a lot of insight and originality!