Romney loses in Florida to McCain...

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Hillary Clinton is the most experienced person to lead this country. She is probably, as well, the most intelligent. McCain is an idiot compared to her. Romney is not experienced.


Hillary is an hippy who believes our taxes should pay millions to pay for a museum commemorating Woodstock. Pass her the doobie dude.

What makes you think she is so intelligent? Because she always has this straight, pissed off face, and rarely speaks? I don't get it. She is by far the fakest person in politics. For years as senator she dodged direct questions about what she stood for. Reporters had difficulties chasing her down. O'Reilley tried to ascertain her positions on numerous issues but nobody could reach her for comment, and she was never on record stating er positions with CNN reporters either.

She got in the senate by name recognition alone and she thought she could just fly in under the radar, be quiet, rake in some "experience" in the senate, before using her name to run for President. Everyone knew this was her stunt. We all saw it coming the second she ran for Senate. She is that predictable because she is all ego and no brain.

Intelligence? Obama has been mopping the floors with her in all the debates, especially on her idiotic proposal on immigrant drivers licenses.

And now you accuse us of rejecting her simply because she is a woman? Stop being a bigot-baiting idiot and offer something of substance. What makes Hillary so "experienced"? How exactly has she succeeded in Washington? She has done nothing, and now she can't even garner support from some of the most experienced democrats, like Ted Kennedy.
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Post by _harmony »

rcrocket wrote:Hillary Clinton is the most experienced person to lead this country. She is probably, as well, the most intelligent. McCain is an idiot compared to her. Romney is not experienced.


What exactly is she experienced at? Being First Lady? Ignoring her spouse's extramarital peccadillos? One term in the Senate? McCain Trump's her in the Senate, and Romney was a governor.

Did I miss something on her experience list?
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I couldn't give a fig about what McCain's mom said about Mormons


I'm not talking about his Mom, I am talking about McCain's spin to mitigate the damage his Mom did. He insulted our intelligence and essentially lied to us. His Mom is a bigot and I find it hard to believe the apple fell far from the tree. I find it hard to believe McCain was "surprised" at that very moment to learn how his mother felt about Mormons.

McCain is a liar. Nothing you have interpreted from Romney shows him to be a liar like McCain. You're just too stuck in anti-Mormonism, like most people here, to see anything good in Romney.
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I am frankly shocked that McCain has not gagged his mother by now. I cringe every time I see an image of her in the media.
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dartagnan wrote:O'Reilley tried to ascertain her positions . . . .


You've said enough for me to pigeonhole your abilities.

She got in the senate by name recognition alone and she thought she could just fly in under the radar, be quiet, rake in some "experience" in the senate, before using her name to run for President. Everyone knew this was her stunt. We all saw it coming the second she ran for Senate. She is that predictable because she is all ego and no brain.


Umm -- one only has to examine her vote record and the influence she wields in Washington to know that that isn't true. I've dealt with her with clients; she is probably one of the most powerful if not the most powerful person in the Senate. Name recognition may have propelled here there in the first place, but name recognition did the same for Franklin Roosevelt, JFK, George W Bush and many others. Moreover, I think that Bill got where he was with the support of his wife.

Intelligence? Obama has been mopping the floors with her in all the debates, especially on her idiotic proposal on immigrant drivers licenses.


Obama is a highly intelligent person and a better debater. He'd be a better president than any of the Republicans. As far as "immigrant drivers licenses," I just don't get the hostility to this -- unless you are a bigot.
And now you accuse us of rejecting her simply because she is a woman? Stop being a bigot-baiting idiot and offer something of substance. What makes Hillary so "experienced"?


I have cited her platform. I have offered substance. [Harmony's attack on her because she chose to stand by Bill after his affairs? How utterly moronic. I guess the same could be said for Eleanor Roosevelt, Jackie Kennedy.]
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rcrocket wrote:As far as John W accusing me of somebody attacking character -- my goodness, it is a massive character flaw to characterize somebody as an untrustworthy person because of that person's gender and voice tenor. And, you -- you don't see anything wrong with that either? What is wrong with you? Yes, I am attacking the character of the posters -- people who disregard Clinton merely because she is a woman?


I guess I didn't see it as a gender-based criticism, just a personal dislike. And I agree with you that personal heebie-jeebies are not a good reason to vote against Senator Clinton.

And, your only comeback is to condemn Romney because he reminds you of somebody on your mission?


I didn't condemn him (where on earth did that come from?). He really does remind me of this guy on my mission. So what? Hillary Clinton reminds Pok of his ex-wife. So what?

Really, now, are Mormons that shallow -- they care only about appearances in judging other people? I think Romney would be an adequate President but he lacks the experience and does not have an adequate position on the core issues, but I don't disregard him for his appearance.


Neither do I, Bob. But then I suspect you knew that. :)
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Post by _DonBradley »

rcrocket wrote:
dartagnan wrote:O'Reilley tried to ascertain her positions . . . .


You've said enough for me to pigeonhole your abilities.


Uh, yeah, Dartagnan...! You're trying to research Hillary's positions via Bill O'Reilly?? You are aware, aren't you, that survey research after the US invasion of Iraq showed Fox News viewers to be, by far, the least accurate in their knowledge of the build-up events? Actually, given that you watch, and apparently trust, Fox News, I'd imagine this would be one of great many things you wouldn't know about.

It's depressing for me to see someone who has been able to extricate himself so well from his earlier religious dogmas so mired in political propaganda.

:(

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rcrocket wrote:
why me wrote:
Pokatator wrote:I am of the "anybody but Hillary" crowd.

That woman just opens her mouth and in 30 seconds all I can see is my ex-wife nagging.

Sorry for the sexist and narrow minded remark but I can't help it, I would vote for the wicked witch of the west before I would vote for Hillary.


I agree with you. I can't stand her and Bill. Too hungry for power and she is a turn off.


Both of you exemplify what is wrong with Mormon prejudice and intelligence. Yes, both of you are hostile to the Church but outsiders would see you both as Mormons if they visited your home on Sundays, I imagine. You probably live in Mormon communities and if you don't your families probably attend church. How can you justify judging a person for her gender -- the "nagging" "ex-wife?" And, nobody on this Board calls you into account for that?

Hillary Clinton is the most experienced person to lead this country. She is probably, as well, the most intelligent. McCain is an idiot compared to her. Romney is not experienced.

Hillary will likely have the most reasoned approach to immigration, the most reasoned approach to the war and civil rights.

rcrocket


Well.... Crocket you can imagine a lot and run your lips a lot, too.

I am not against a woman president, I am against that woman. My choice is not running. I would have liked to have seen someone like Condi Rice run. I would then have the best of two worlds, a black and a woman.

I disagree with Clinton, Inc.'s politics. One thing that Romney has said that I agree with is that Washington is broken. It is full of lawyers, lawyers like you Crocky. We had 4 years of a Bush, 8 years of Clinton, Inc., then 8 more years of a Bush. That's twenty years of two family dynasties running America. And?, you want to sign on for 4 to 8 years more of this brokenness?

I basically maintain that the only difference between a Democrat and a Republican is that one is "in" and the other wants "in". The same stuff happens no matter who is "in". Example, Clinton inherited Newt and the Contract with America and reform took place. More conservative initiatives enacted than have been in a long time and Clinton takes credit for it. Bush takes over and enacts more liberal, big government programs and spending since FDR and the republicans don't care because for the moment they have the power. The whole process is broken and the public is brainwashed like you Crocky the lawyer.

The Mac attack is an insider but a moderate. All the Democrat candidates are too far left and Romney is too far right to be elected in the general election. A centralist, a moderate like the Mac is the only option in my opinion. He is not my choice. I could have voted for a moderate Democrat like Richardson but they are being ruled by the radical left like Move-on.org and Soros' orgs. Crocket if you can make generalizations about me, my house, and person I can make them about you.....I think you have half the intelligence of Michael Moore and you are a fan of his.

I question Hillary's expertise and yours. I think you can have negative expertise and experience and I think Hillary for one and Washington as a whole is full of it. And you're full of it too.
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

rcrocket wrote:You too. Do you disagree with her gender, as well? The tenor of her female voice?


Oh brother. You insinuating I'm a sexist is rich.
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rcrocket wrote:
dartagnan wrote:O'Reilley tried to ascertain her positions . . . .


You've said enough for me to pigeonhole your abilities.

She got in the senate by name recognition alone and she thought she could just fly in under the radar, be quiet, rake in some "experience" in the senate, before using her name to run for President. Everyone knew this was her stunt. We all saw it coming the second she ran for Senate. She is that predictable because she is all ego and no brain.


Umm -- one only has to examine her vote record and the influence she wields in Washington to know that that isn't true. I've dealt with her with clients; she is probably one of the most powerful if not the most powerful person in the Senate. Name recognition may have propelled here there in the first place, but name recognition did the same for Franklin Roosevelt, JFK, George W Bush and many others. Moreover, I think that Bill got where he was with the support of his wife.

Intelligence? Obama has been mopping the floors with her in all the debates, especially on her idiotic proposal on immigrant drivers licenses.


Obama is a highly intelligent person and a better debater. He'd be a better president than any of the Republicans. As far as "immigrant drivers licenses," I just don't get the hostility to this -- unless you are a bigot.



So, wanting to stop ILLEGALS from getting driver's licenses is bigoted? What about the rule of law?

And now you accuse us of rejecting her simply because she is a woman? Stop being a bigot-baiting idiot and offer something of substance. What makes Hillary so "experienced"?


I have cited her platform. I have offered substance. [Harmony's attack on her because she chose to stand by Bill after his affairs? How utterly moronic. I guess the same could be said for Eleanor Roosevelt, Jackie Kennedy.]


And her platform stinks. It basicaly consists of the same-old tired liberal views of tax and spend. Now, I'm not saying the republicans have been any better lately, but, good grief, have you seen how much all her programs would cost?

Who's going to pay for all that? The rich, as usual? You do know that the top 50% of wage earners pay 97% of all taxes. Most of what she advocates is just income distribution. She's a socialist.

As to her "experience", the only reason she's where she is is becase of her husband. She's never been elected to any other office and she's never run a business. The health care mess she was involved in during her husband's presidency was a disaster.

In a twisted sort of way, I do hope she wins, then that way, all the problems that are sure to follow will be on her head, and those of the democrats. Maybe we'll get a true conservative after that. After all, it took a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald reagan.
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