Romney loses in Florida to McCain...

[_GoodK]

Like I said, we need a practical and pragmatic solution.
Is it the United States' responsibility to educate the citizens of a foreign country? No, I'll grant that. But guess what? These citizens of a foreign country happen to be living in America, and they're probably going to stay for a while. We're going to have to deal with them one way or another.

Are you against some version of mass deportation as a solution?

We can educate the children and hope they have some way of "going legal" when they grow up and make a better life for themselves and their own future children,

At our and our future children's expense.

or we can pay $30k a year to house them in prison when they turn to the only option we've left open for them, which is a life of crime. Which would you prefer?

Whichever is more cost effective. I would be curious to see the numbers. Ideally, I would like to see illegal immigrants deported and educated in their home country, although that may not be an option. If it is more cost effective to educate illegal immigrant children, well I guess that would be what I prefer. I still wouldn't feel good about it, again, because of the American children that get short-changed as a result of it.

Seriously, if some small children are taken to this country by their illegal immigrant parents and grow up in America and get through their adolescence and teenage years with no formal education, exactly what do you imagine will become of them?

Well, in a country where anybody can become anything, who knows. Who is to say they will become anything with a formal education.

Would you rather have them running around still not speaking English and being utterly ignorant and illiterate, with almost no possibility of a decent life, or would you rather have them speaking good English and being smart and educated and prepared to contribute somehow to the society they live amongst?

The term "anchor baby" comes to mind here. I realize the difficulty of the situation, but I think it's a slippery slope and again, gives just another incentive to break the law.

Again, I don't support illegal immigration. But they're here, there always will be some level of illegal immigration here, and the situation presents us with a bunch of practical, real-life problems and choices. I'm for the more humane and pragmatic choices, and against the more dogmatic and inhumane ones.

Me too. I think we may just not see eye to eye on this.

[_Bond...James Bond]

Two well known candidates dropped out today, John Edwards on the Democratic side and Rudy Guiliani on the Republican side...and threw his support behind McCain. Bad news for Romney I think.

[_rcrocket]

Are you by any chance a TBM Mormon? Do you believe other religions have the truth, or just your own? Wouldn't that make you a "bigot"?

What about people with less education than you? How do you treat them? Do you call them "morons" like you've called some people on this board (in this thread, no less). Isn't that a bit "bigoted" of you?

Are you white, black, etc.?

If you're white, do you go into the downtown of a large city at 3:00 AM in the morning? Why not? Are you a racist?

If you're black, do you go into that little southern town to get something to eat while on the highway? Or do you avoid it? Why? Are you a racist?

Be careful of the labels you give other people.

I am careful. I try and base my conclusions of moronity upon the quality of posts. My good friend Kevin calls me an idiot because I believe in a resurrected Lord and His prophet -- merely because of that. There's a difference between labeling somebody an idiot because of subjective religious beliefs, on the one hand, and labeling somebody a moron because he dislikes Hillary Clinton for being a woman and acting like a nagging ex-wife.

I'd be careful if I were you in corresponding with me.

rcrocket

[_rcrocket]

The term "anchor baby" comes to mind here. I realize the difficulty of the situation, but I think it's a slippery slope and again, gives just another incentive to break the law.

As you sit there in your whitebread home, in comfortable suburbia, looking down on all those dumb Mexicans, with an expensive computer at your fingertips, remember one thing -- that anchor baby is a citizen of the United States and entitled to all benefits Congress has given citizens, including particular promises for health care, jobs and access to schools. Congress has already decided that that anchor baby is presumed to become a productive citizen of the wealthiest nation on earth.

Such Christianity you all have maintained since jettisoning Jesus Christ.

rcrocket

[_the road to hana]

The term "anchor baby" comes to mind here. I realize the difficulty of the situation, but I think it's a slippery slope and again, gives just another incentive to break the law.

As you sit there in your whitebread home, in comfortable suburbia, looking down on all those dumb Mexicans, with an expensive computer at your fingertips, remember one thing -- that anchor baby is a citizen of the United States and entitled to all benefits Congress has given citizens, including particular promises for health care, jobs and access to schools. Congress has already decided that that anchor baby is presumed to become a productive citizen of the wealthiest nation on earth.

Such Christianity you all have maintained since jettisoning Jesus Christ.

rcrocket

GoodK is your LA neighbor. Probably a member of your ward.

[_rcrocket]

And you my private stalker. You might telling everybody what you told my SP?

[_the road to hana]

And you my private stalker. You might telling everybody what you told my SP?

Never had contact with your Stake President. Wouldn't have any interest in doing so.

Why don't you tell us what someone allegedly told him? Don't keep us in suspense.

[_harmony]

Seems to me like the answer to the illegal immigration issue could be quite simple: annex Mexico.

[_beastie]

And you my private stalker. You might telling everybody what you told my SP?

LOL! Who cares that crocket makes slanderous accusations without bothering himself with actual evidence to support those accusations. After all, he's posting with his real name!!!

[_GoodK]

The term "anchor baby" comes to mind here. I realize the difficulty of the situation, but I think it's a slippery slope and again, gives just another incentive to break the law.

As you sit there in your whitebread home, in comfortable suburbia, looking down on all those dumb Mexicans, with an expensive computer at your fingertips, remember one thing -- that anchor baby is a citizen of the United States and entitled to all benefits Congress has given citizens, including particular promises for health care, jobs and access to schools. Congress has already decided that that anchor baby is presumed to become a productive citizen of the wealthiest nation on earth.

Such Christianity you all have maintained since jettisoning Jesus Christ.

rcrocket

GoodK is your LA neighbor. Probably a member of your ward.

Funny thing is I was in his stake at one point. I know one of his daughters.

That's how I know Bob is full of crap with this racism thing. Anyone who lives in New*** knows illegal immigration is out of control.