Discussion about Kevin's methods re Plagiarism

[_Yoda]

Now while you are reading here I might as well say one other thing. In Kevin's tag line he is attempting to poison the well and harass me. He is quoting an ad hom fallacious remark made by Gad in a discussion, which should never have been allowed in the celestial forum in the first place under proper moderation and that tag line which originated as fallacious is now transferred to all Kevin's posts, ...including in the Celestial forum. It is part of every single message he writes and it shouldn't be there.

I agree that the post is inappropriate for the Celestial Forum. If you can provide me a link as to where that post is, I will split that post off and move it to the Telestial Forum. As an ad hominem post, it does not belong in the Celestial Forum as part of a thread.

As far as the sig line is concerned, I also agree that it is rather gross and "out there". However, since it does not fall into an out and out category of breaking the rules, i.e. cursing, temple content, etc., I cannot remove it. Actually, I do not have the administrative rights to modify someone's profile. Only Shades and Keene can do that. If you would like to ask Shades about it, please feel free to PM him. I will leave that as his call, and respect any decision he makes regarding it.

Kevin, as a personal favor to me, I would appreciate it if you removed the sig line. Again, however, this is a request, not a demand. Shades can/may make a further call regarding this.

[_marg]

As far as the sig line is concerned, I also agree that it is rather gross and "out there". However, since it does not fall into an out and out category of breaking the rules, I.e. cursing, temple content, etc., I cannot remove it. Actually, I do not have the administrative rights to modify someone's profile. Only Shades and Keene can do that. If you would like to ask Shades about it, please feel free to PM him. I will leave that as his call, and respect any decision he makes regarding it.

Kevin, as a personal favor to me, I would appreciate it if you removed the sig line. Again, however, this is a request, not a demand. Shades can/may make a further call regarding this.

That's okay Liz I decided to put my own tag line, since I'd rather not bother Shades.

[_Moniker]

Now while you are reading here I might as well say one other thing. In Kevin's tag line he is attempting to poison the well and harass me. He is quoting an ad hom fallacious remark made by Gad in a discussion, which should never have been allowed in the celestial forum in the first place under proper moderation and that tag line which originated as fallacious is now transferred to all Kevin's posts, ...including in the Celestial forum. It is part of every single message he writes and it shouldn't be there.

I agree that the post is inappropriate for the Celestial Forum. If you can provide me a link as to where that post is, I will split that post off and move it to the Telestial Forum. As an ad hominem post, it does not belong in the Celestial Forum as part of a thread.

Might want to see this one from JAK in celestial:
http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... upid#68530

Gadianton, you’re either dishonest or stupid. Why do you misquote a single short line?.

Which is it, Gadianton. Are you stupid or dishonest? It’s one or the other. You cannot even quote a short statement accurately from one of my posts. That word "WHY" makes a totally different statement to you than your false quote which you then straw man attack as if I had said your misquote.

Given that stupidity or dishonesty, discussion with you is pointless.

At least re-read my post Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:08 pm to recognize your own stupidity or dishonesty.

Here's another one of JAK's that make me giggle. Yanno, I think if JAK thinks gad is stupid (I think gad and Tarski are two of the most intelligent, well read, KIND, non-condescending men on this board) and is an ass to Tarski I should let what he said slip right off of me...

Major Premise: All men are stupid.
Minor Premise: Tarski is a man.
Conclusion: Tarski is stupid.

[_marg]

I agree that the post is inappropriate for the Celestial Forum. If you can provide me a link as to where that post is, I will split that post off and move it to the Telestial Forum. As an ad hominem post, it does not belong in the Celestial Forum as part of a thread.

Well Liz anyone whose tag line is ad hom to posters on this board, .and who writes in the Celestial forum is going to have any of their posts there, ending up including personal attacks on a poster.

You might as well take out all Moniker's posts in the Celestial as her tag line is ad hom as well.

[_Moniker]

I agree that the post is inappropriate for the Celestial Forum. If you can provide me a link as to where that post is, I will split that post off and move it to the Telestial Forum. As an ad hominem post, it does not belong in the Celestial Forum as part of a thread.

Well Liz anyone whose tag line is ad hom to posters on this board, .and who writes in the Celestial forum is going to have any of their posts there, ending up including personal attacks on a poster.

You might as well take out all Moniker's posts in the Celestial as her tag line is ad hom as well.

I'm glad marg can lecture us all on civility. Love your sig line, marg. Just so you know -- I embrace my inner bitchy teen. ;P

[_Yoda]

As far as the sig line is concerned, I also agree that it is rather gross and "out there". However, since it does not fall into an out and out category of breaking the rules, I.e. cursing, temple content, etc., I cannot remove it. Actually, I do not have the administrative rights to modify someone's profile. Only Shades and Keene can do that. If you would like to ask Shades about it, please feel free to PM him. I will leave that as his call, and respect any decision he makes regarding it.

Kevin, as a personal favor to me, I would appreciate it if you removed the sig line. Again, however, this is a request, not a demand. Shades can/may make a further call regarding this.

That's okay Liz I decided to put my own tag line, since I'd rather not bother Shades.

For what it's worth, Marg, if you will notice, Kevin did change his sig line.

Thanks, Kev. ;)

[_Dr. Shades]

Might want to see this one from JAK in celestial:
http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... upid#68530

Gadianton, you’re either dishonest or stupid. Why do you misquote a single short line?.

Which is it, Gadianton. Are you stupid or dishonest? It’s one or the other. You cannot even quote a short statement accurately from one of my posts. That word "WHY" makes a totally different statement to you than your false quote which you then straw man attack as if I had said your misquote.

Given that stupidity or dishonesty, discussion with you is pointless.

At least re-read my post Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:08 pm to recognize your own stupidity or dishonesty.

I went ahead and edited those words from JAK out.

[_Moniker]

For what it's worth, Marg, if you will notice, Kevin did change his sig line.

Thanks, Kev. ;)

He actually changed it for different reasons... Can marg no longer post in celestial now?

[_Dr. Shades]

He actually changed it for different reasons... Can marg no longer post in celestial now?

Correct, as long as she has her current signature line, she can't.

[_marg]

I went ahead and edited those words from JAK out.

Well if you are going to now step in and start editing out fallacious ad hominal phrases..that is personal attack in lieu of response on issue..I'll make a list for you. I think I stopped at about page 3 or 4. If necessary I'll continue later...but they are a start.

These are all from Cal. Crusader

Aug 27 10:28 (to JAK)
Aug 27 10.39 (to JAK)
Aug 27 3:07 (to JAK)
Aug 27 5:31 (to JAK)
Aug 27 7:54 (to JAK)
Aug 27 7:56 (to JAK)
Aug 28 2:52 (to me)
Aug 28 3:11 (to me)
Aug 28 3:31 (to JAK)

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From Gad

Aug 30 11:11 (to me)