Oil of Vitriol

[_Sam Harris]

Goddamn the hour of 6:42 am. I should not be at work this early. But that's what progress gets for you.

A few thoughts on actually living life off of a board.

Firstly, I'm getting married next April. Secondly (let's hope not...well, I wouldn't mind if it was true, but I'm tired as hell as it is), I could be pregnant. Damn Steve's super soldiers. Thirdly, a much better and much more high-paying job just fell into my lap...from a company that did me wrong and apologized, asking me back (oh, the irony!). I move in a month, and life is pretty sweet right now.

I guess these things would have still been in my life had I chosen to continue to spend way too much time on this board bathing in the negative energy that some just have to put here, but I'm glad I stepped back and started to live life again, pay attention to my fiancee, do things normal people do. Not that there aren't normal and intelligent people here, but the atmosphere here has gone to hell, and it's because of the fact that some folks just don't want to respect differences in beliefs and opinon. They claim that THEY have the truth (but hammer others for making that claim), and insist on having the right to say this, while taking it from others. You know the word for such behavior.

I laughed at the uproar of how "freedom just isn't free"...because only true freedom of speech around here is when you can be free to defame another's character. Now, defamation isn't telling the truth.

I just read a pitiful excuse for a blog on a myspace page...blogs are where you post your own thoughts....or your thoughts in reference to an article or some other piece of literature...not quote word for word someone you worship, because you don't have the capacity to invent a thought of your own...yet you consider yourself to be the height of independence because Mrs. Lacy gave you a high grade in 12th grade English. I just found out how much of a kid I'd been letting get under my skin. Individual can't even write (or quote scripture contradictions properly...LOL Acts 2:30?).

But onto the title of the thread...I'm trying to cut down on the stress level that comes from a move, a marriage, a baby (possibly...could just be my body rejecting food again), a new job, and the task of making this one as stress-free as possible for whoever takes my place by reading when I can stay awake. TV doesn't keep my attention anymore. I knew that vitriol was not a very pleasant thing, but I had no idea that it was an actual substance that wounded men used to throw in the face of their old lovers back in the day. So poetic. :-)

I watched as some people tried to bring some reason into the whole "faith based" idea, and I saw how eagerly it was shot down. And I realize why. It's far more important for many here to make sure that those who simply belong to that which they don't agree with lose as much face as possible. The oil of vitriol must be thrown, because the cog dis kicks in when you see someone living a peaceful life within what caused you so much pain. Instead of moving on, you dwell on that. And we end up with people who just have to insist that because they believe in nothing, they are somehow far more intellectually stimulated than those who do....well, let's not let writing skills be the judge of that. Or reasoning, for that matter.

I find myself feeling a bit amused as the anti-God pundits let their hair down around here (and I'm not talking about the actual truly brainy atheists here who can teach/debate/enlighten...you know who you are), and I find that I've been dealing with well...children. People who graduated what, a year before me? Or a few years after? And you know the TRUTH about life and the secrets thereof? That's funny. I don't even think I know everything. Now I understand why my elders would tell me that even once I reached adulthood, I would have a lot to learn. I expected that the folks behaving like this would be old enough to be my parents, but it seems that those who are this age are actually the calmer and more rational ones here. But that's to be expected.

Meh, well anyways....if you can swallow what I'm saying, congratulate me. My colors are Cranberry, Ivory, and Gold. If Steve says "triplets" one more time, I'll rochambeau him. Pay raises rock...and it rocks even more so when a company that fires you comes back requesting you for a management position because they finally realize that no one else could really do the job anyway. It's amazing what you can do in life when you just let go of some things...

Like the oil of vitriol.

[_skippy the dead]

Feel better now?

It would seem that for someone who professes disdain for those who can't let go, you really can't let go. Why the need to return to throw your own vitriol? Your post is filled with insults and self-righteousness - obviously you are not following your own advice.

I know I should just keep my mouth shut - but after watching the build up to your dramatic exit (followed by more posts waving your hands in the air to show your imagined moral superiority), I can only wonder why you feel the need to continue in this vein.

[_silentkid]

Damn Steve's super soldiers.

TMI.

[_asbestosman]

in my opinion: the faith based rule was a nice try, but I think it was a mistake. I don't think threads should have been labeled. in my opinion the Celestial forum should simply be a place where you don't belittle people for their beliefs and that you do not derail a thread. I'm no fan of JAK, and often mocked his style while the whole faith-based thing was going on. I really dislike how he keeps hitting his one note about god and hijacks threads to do it. All that said, I did not like the rule as it was formulated. I am completely in favor of moderating the Celestial forum to protect it derailment and belittling (since it is for polite, respectful discussion), but I would have thought that such rules already exist. I just want them to be enforced.

[_Bond...James Bond]

I just read a pitiful excuse for a blog on a myspace page...

My blog hasn't been on myspace for years. If you're going to bust my chops get the facts straight. Wordpress. not Myspace.

[_Sam Harris]

Skippy, don't trip. You might get hurt. You're just one of those cheerleaders for those around here who feel the need to abuse LDS they've never met for simply being. Unable to provide any real substance, folks have resorted to slinging crap back and forth in the name of "freedom". It's quite funny.

So Skippy, are you providing me with the non-LDS equivalent to "they leave, but they can't leave it alone"? I'm sure (well, I hope) you posess more wit than that...

Bond...I bet you're a damned good writer. It wasn't you I was talking about. I don't even think I saw your page, but it would be an honor to see Liz's Bond-slave.

ABman, perhaps the rule should have been formulated differently, but there are many specimens on this forum of how self-government isn't really viable. People just cannot respect others' choices.

If it's the TBMS, they cannot respect the "liberals" or the atheists. Let those people speak on what they know, they get shot down.

If it's the anti-theists, they can't respect anyone who believes in a higher power. Let those people speak on what they know, they get shot down.

The disdain of the two extremes causes so much trouble...and from folks who seem to be otherwise level-minded.

[_Sam Harris]

Damn Steve's super soldiers.

TMI.

I didn't coin the phrase...

I'm mad that I learned about a tongue vibrator from the conversation of teenage girls on the bus yesterday...

[_skippy the dead]

Skippy, don't trip. You might get hurt.

Huh?

You're just one of those cheerleaders for those around here who feel the need to abuse LDS they've never met for simply being. Unable to provide any real substance, folks have resorted to slinging s*** back and forth in the name of "freedom". It's quite funny.

No, I do not support those people at all, and am a cheerleader for none. In fact, you may notice that I have even defended some of our LDS posters when abuse was piled on them. Although I have determined that the LDS religion is not for me or my girls, I do not attack those who have chosen it for their lives. Disagree with doctrine and practices, sure. But "abuse LDS for simply being"? Not hardly.

So Skippy, are you providing me with the non-LDS equivalent to "they leave, but they can't leave it alone"? I'm sure (well, I hope) you posess more wit than that...

No, I'm not providing any such thing. You've made your dramatic exit, imploding on your self-declared "trap" in the Celestial kingdom. You've "resorted to slinging crap" all over folks, all while riding on your high horse. Then you come back with disparaging remarks, all while professing your alleged superiority for being above the fray. You've even co-opted another board to continue to spout your grievances, again while pretending you're different than those about whom you complain.

So I ask again, why do you feel the need to continue in this vein? You have made very clear that this board, the posters on it, and the way in which they communicate is beneath you. Yet you have made several posts along these same lines. To what end? Can you really not see that you are doing exactly what you apparently despise?

[_Sam Harris]

Skippy, how long have you been on this forum?

Have you watched its evolution like I have?

You can continue to wipe the breastmilk off of GoodK's face for getting caught in his own game, but I'm not sorry about that. And I'm not sorry that I gave up babysitting such a group of whiners when it comes to respecting the beliefs of those who do believe in God...

Do not put words in my mouth. The half quotes of Marg and her son were enough. I don't feel that anyone is beneath me, if you paid as close attention as you claim to do, you'd know just how I esteem people. However, the belief that a person needs to be looked down upon because they're religious, or don't really want to debate religion is detestable to me. This forum wasn't always that way, but took a turn to that a few months ago, and hasn't really recovered.

It's amazing to see the difference in TONE of posters on two separate boards. This place which was set up in the hopes that everyone could respect other's beliefs and just DISCUSS has been poisoned by those who have to interject in every thread that talks about anything other than atheism or the small minds of believers. When they're done they go back to talking about TV or some other diversion. It's wrong. Does that mean they're a lesser person than me? No...but I know what I say rankles.

I'm over the fact that in the cyber world, people sometimes expect you to abide by rules they create for themselves...and not tell you this. I'm over the fact that folks can twist simple terms and get pissed when they get caught doing so. Ok...moving on.

But again...this forum is not what it used to be. You can blame all the personal attacks on me if you like, but that isn't really going to cut it. There are some sick folk on here, who feel that their expereince with the LDS church is reason to damn all religion and religious thought as evil, and all people who are adherents to this are fair game...then there's Wade. He and I have had plenty of discussions, but he will (might) tell you himself that I told him that as a person I felt there was nothing wrong with him...just his approach.

Some folks here need to grow up. You can continue to whine about high horses, or you can see how stupid it is to get mad when actually asked to respect someone's spritual choices (oh wow, a rule was made about it), when the same damn thing was happening on FAIR, but the pointed end was aimed at us here, and we weren't respected.

Well, I have a similar sort of disclaimer out here in the real world. I put RESPECT BASED on everything I do now. I agreed with the main tenet of the FAITH BASED idea, because no one should have to hide in shame here because they have faith in something outside of themselves. And the opening page....includes a lot of people who just have no voice here anymore.

You may continue on about high horses now. I like horses.

[_Sam Harris]

Oh, and for the record...

LOL, it's so cute how you guys create realities to suit your conspiracy theories!

I caught that "co-op a board" bit. I post there because the white noise is not there. You can hear people speak. But I did not request to be a mod. Get your stories straight. :D