If you thought "W" was bad...

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ajax18 wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate.


What good will that do?


It'll tell the next viable candidates what stances they should take if they want his vote. I tend to vote that way too when I can since I usually feel like I'm voting between a turd sandwich and a bowl of poop soup. Unfortunately, I feel like the worldwide US reputation has been greatly hurt by W and I'm afraid of what the next candidate may do. I don't want to bow to world opinion, but I think we still need to work with them instead of merely ignoring so many of them only to end up having made the wrong decision and then not admitting we were wrong.
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What are Obama's three biggest accomplishments in the US Senate? What did he do in Springfield (as an Illinois Senator) besides imitate Bill Clinton in one respect.
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ajax18 wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate.


What good will that do?


Precisely the same good that voting for any other candidate will do.
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ajax18 wrote:Well at least you have sense of humor, even if you are a leftist.


I am depressed by the truth of what you say. I don't see much that is funny about it.

As far as being a "leftist," I do not identify myself as such. I don't like outdated ideological boxes.
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Let's not forget that John McCain is Not as far right on the abortion issue as George W. Bush. Unlike Mr. George W. Bush, Senator John McCain is for funding for embryonic stem cell research.
Please Check Out and See:
http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm
And:
http://hill6.thehill.com/leading-the-ne ... 10-25.html
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Re: If you thought "W" was bad...

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Trevor wrote:
10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10


John McCain on Environment:


Click here for 23 full quotes on Environment OR other candidates on Environment OR background on Environment.

Support much tougher regulations on emission requirements. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Criticized $3M "bear DNA" study, but voted for it. (Nov 2007)
Economic & environmental interests not mutually exclusive. (Sep 2007)
Scored 40% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection. (Jan 2007)
1996: Put 3.5B acres of land into wilderness protection. (Jan 2004)
Preserving wilderness among proudest achievements. (Sep 2002)
Preserve and help our National Parks. (Jan 2000)
Repeal ban on new roads in wilderness due to bad process. (Dec 1999)
Use park visitor fees for park development bonds. (Dec 1999)
Preserve natural resources for future. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on including oil & gas smokestacks in mercury regulations. (Sep 2005)
Voted YES on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001)
Voted YES on transportation demo projects. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. (Sep 1997)
Voted NO on continuing desert protection in California. (Oct 1994)
Voted YES on requiring EPA risk assessments. (May 1994)
End commercial whaling and illegal trade in whale meat. (Jun 2001)
Supports grants for brownfields remediation. (May 2002)
Make EPA into a Cabinet department. (May 2002)
Rated 53% by the LCV, indicating a mixed record on environment. (Dec 2003)
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up. (Apr 2004)
Focus on results, not regulation. (Sep 1998)


( Link: http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm )
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Dr. Shades wrote:
ajax18 wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:I'll be voting for the Libertarian candidate.


What good will that do?


Precisely the same good that voting for any other candidate will do.


I'm not trying to be offensive. I was just interested since I don't really like any of the three remaining canidates either, but I've always just chosen what to me was the lesser evil. While I'm glad they did this, it seems to me that Democrats who voted for Ralph Nader were just throwing their vote away.
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Trevor wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Well at least you have sense of humor, even if you are a leftist.


I am depressed by the truth of what you say. I don't see much that is funny about it.

As far as being a "leftist," I do not identify myself as such. I don't like outdated ideological boxes.


I was afraid you were going to say that. I think you're right on both counts.
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All Empires fail. The accumulation of wealth by a select few usually initiates the downfall.


No, it's more like the empire taking on different principles and people than the ones that made it an empire.


No, that's how Empires succeed. The business model must change over time to stay current with an ever changing world.


Rome wasn't an international melting pot when it conquered the Western world. It was when it crumbled from within. On top of that, they quit believing in their gods and forgot what Roman virtue meant.

The U.S.A. is really not a nation anymore, nor do we believe in the principles that made us what we are anymore. We look at the draft as something evil as opposed to the honor of fighting for the country. We view our soldiers as murdering mercenaries rather than honoring them as we should. We put them on trial for just trying to do what it takes to come home safely.

We now view our 19th and 20th century hegemony as cruel and barbaric. We once viewed it as our manifest destiny. We once thought that making the rest of the world like us would be best for everyone. Now we believe that we should let them live as they wish, and for that we pay the price in immigrants washing up on our shores to be taken care of. When you stop expanding, you actually start to deteriorate.
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Moniker wrote:About things being unconstitutional or not... that's up to the justices.

That's their role... funny thing that. :)


Hello Moniker,

The Justices on the Supreme Court just over a year ago, upheld the Federal Ban on the Barbaric Practice of Partial-Birth Abortion. Partial-Birth Abortion was usually performed in the second trimester, from 18 to 26 weeks of Pregnancy.
Please Check Out and See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial-Bi ... on_Ban_Act
And:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Carhart

I do definitely agree with this Decision by the Supreme Court. Senator John McCain Voted Yes, for the Ban on the Barbaric practice of Partial-birth Abortion.. Hillary Clinton voted No, for the ban on the Barbaric practice of Partial-birth Abortion.

Please Check Out and See:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/r ... vote=00402

And I am definitely Planning to Vote for Senator John McCain for President, this coming General election.
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