Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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Re: Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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Trevor wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Personally I think the article in question was not a black-and-white hit piece.


Although it seems that "News Busters" would like its readers to believe so. Who will bust the busters?


That site looks pretty useless for me.
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That website is awesome because it literally "busts the news" and reveals so much horse crap that abounds online and in the media. I just started reading it a week or so ago.

You want to bust the newsbusters? Go for it. I easily see why Obama supporters wouldn't like it.

If all you have on it so far is a perspective that disagrees this is a "hit piece" then I'd say they're in pretty good shape.
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moksha wrote:Four more years of the Bush doctrine!


You mean his worldview? [nodding confidently]
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Re: Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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dartagnan wrote:If all you have on it so far is a perspective that disagrees this is a "hit piece" then I'd say they're in pretty good shape.


Since they provide a rather skewed interpretation of the article, what do you think they "busted"?

A straw man?
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The bottom line is if Sarah Palin wasn't a political threat to the Left they'd be silent on her. There wasn't this kind of vitriol directed at VP Cheney, VP Bush, and even VP Quayle.

Frankly, I think the Left was hoping McCain would pick Lieberman since a McCain/Lieberman ticket would have ensured a Obama/Biden victory. Hell, ANY pick other than Sarah Palin would have ensured a Democrat victory, in my opinion. THAT is why she's being savaged the mainstream media, Leftist blogosphere, and Daniel Peterson.
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dartagnan wrote:That website is awesome because it literally "busts the news" and reveals so much horse crap that abounds online and in the media. I just started reading it a week or so ago.

You want to bust the newsbusters? Go for it. I easily see why Obama supporters wouldn't like it.

If all you have on it so far is a perspective that disagrees this is a "hit piece" then I'd say they're in pretty good shape.



Actually, your site appears to be quite one-sided itself, which is odd, given that the theme of it currently seems to be decrying "the media" for having a "bias." I prefer, among other sites, these:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
http://factcheck.org/

Of course, Karl Rove said not to trust those pinkos, so buyer beware.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/14/rove-fact-check/

And what do you know, but my good ol' pal Mark Glaser said:

While [the politifact and factcheck] sites have grown in name recognition and popularity over the past few months, they still lag behind the efforts of partisan groups who fact-check the media themselves at Newsbusters.org (for conservatives) and Media Matters (for liberals).

(http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/09/d ... actch.html)

So what do we do? As a journalism, major, I try to approach things from many angles. I read and watch news from the NYT, WSJ, CNN, Fox News, locally from KSL and from channel 2 as well, in addition to magazine articles, etc. I watch CNN and Fox News (at least these two) each night. I listen to NPR on the way to work, and often on the drive home I listen to a more conservative KSL program. I read the candidates speeches and positions as posted on their websites. I check with non-partisan sites, realizing that even they may carry a slant. I try to make an informed decision. I don't believe perusing "newsbusters.org" is sufficient for my personal needs. In fact, a brief perusal of "Newsbusters.org" showed nothing in regards to problems in reporting on McCain campaign, his commercials, or anything that would seem to question McCain or Palin.




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Re: Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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antishock8 wrote:The bottom line is if Sarah Palin wasn't a political threat to the Left they'd be silent on her. There wasn't this kind of vitriol directed at VP Cheney, VP Bush, and even VP Quayle.

Frankly, I think the Left was hoping McCain would pick Lieberman since a McCain/Lieberman ticket would have ensured a Obama/Biden victory. Hell, ANY pick other than Sarah Palin would have ensured a Democrat victory, in my opinion. THAT is why she's being savaged the mainstream media, Leftist blogosphere, and Daniel Peterson.


Interesting and completely unverifiable theory, antishock8.

Why then are there a number of conservatives who are concerned about her? Are they concerned because they are secret leftists? Like Chuck Hagel? David Frum (former Bush speechwriter and conservative columnist)? Mike Murphy (former senior advisor to McCain)?

Maybe the reason she is an easy target is because she appears to have questionable competence.
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antishock8 wrote: THAT is why she's being savaged the mainstream media, Leftist blogosphere, and Daniel Peterson.

haha nice. I'm pretty sure DCP has said little to nothing on Palin. From what I understand, and this doesn't say who he would vote for, DCP is rather conservative politically.
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Re: Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:So what do we do? As a journalism, major, I try to approach things from many angles. I read and watch news from the NYT, WSJ, CNN, Fox News, locally from KSL and from channel 2 as well, in addition to magazine articles, etc. I watch CNN and Fox News (at least these two) each night. I listen to NPR on the way to work, and often on the drive home I listen to a more conservative KSL program. I read the candidates speeches and positions as posted on their websites. I check with non-partisan sites, realizing that even they may carry a slant. I try to make an informed decision. I don't believe perusing "newsbusters.org" is sufficient for my personal needs. In fact, a brief perusal of "Newsbusters.org" showed nothing in regards to problems in reporting on McCain campaign, his commercials, or anything that would seem to question McCain or Palin.


Only a leftist ideologue would do those things! You need to stick with Murdoch Inc. News and such objective sites like News Busters.
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Re: Sam Harris on Sarah Palin

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
antishock8 wrote: THAT is why she's being savaged the mainstream media, Leftist blogosphere, and Daniel Peterson.

haha nice. I'm pretty sure DCP has said little to nothing on Palin. From what I understand, and this doesn't say who he would vote for, DCP is rather conservative politically.


I don't recall that DCP said anything about Palin.
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