Senator Biden is not intelligent. And Mormonism.

[_antishock8]

Senator Biden has his priorities straight:

“My wife Jill, who you’ll meet soon, is drop dead gorgeous,” Biden said and then joked, “My wife Jill, who you’ll meet soon, she also has her doctorate degree, which is a problem.”

About Senator Obama being ready to assume the Presidency:

STEPHANOPOULOS: "Do you still stand by the statement?"

BIDEN: "That was a year ago. He's learned a hell of a lot."

STEPHANOPOULOS: "So he's developed...uh... on the campaign trail??"

On Senator Obama's inexperience:

December 11, 2007 - Biden's Campaign Manager on Obama: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate. But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”

[_antishock8]

- He's confused Army brigades with battalions.

Oh no! That's just terrible. No patriotic American could possibly be qualified to lead who does not, on the spot, know the difference between a brigade and a battalion.

Wait, does he know the difference between a company and a troop? Or a battery? Can he name the last General of the Army? Can he describe the rank insignia of a Command Sergeant Major? Let's see, can he explain the difference between a Major General in the US Army and a Major General in the German Army?

I know he's made his gaffes, but the one about brigades and battalions is pretty funny. I doubt 95% of Americans could explain that difference.

I agree with the Dudester on this issue of gaffes. They're good for a partisan chuckle, but not much else. If gaffes really meant something Bush should have been impeached for his gaffes years ago.

ps: for those who don't know, brigades are typically composed of several battalions, and brigades themselves are grouped to form divisions, though depending on the branch of service, and what country we're talking about, military organization can vary substantially.

Well, I kinda think that for a guy to be ONE STEP away from COMMANDER IN CHIEF that yeah... Something "trivial" like that tends to be important. Call me crazy...

[_Some Schmo]

Schmo doesn't seem to realize that most of the damning evidence against Biden is just as recent as the Palin commentary. So the silly "He's been in office longer" argument doesn't work.

OK, forget about his experience. He's still been far more accessable by the press in the last month. All the material about Palin has come as the result of a handful of interviews, and there's something to make fun of in every one of them.

Also, Palin has never said anything as historically inaccurate as Biden has about the depression, nor has she blatantly lied about something as Biden has, nor has she committed the crime of plagiarism, as has Biden.

Likely because she doesn't know what the depression was, what to lie about, or who to plagiarize.

[_antishock8]

Biden's 1988 campaign ad:

"The White House isn't the place to learn how to deal with international crisis, the balance of power, war and peace, and the economic future of the next generation. A president has got to know the territory." - Sounds like he's a McCain supporter!!

Oh. Wait.

Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007:

“The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005:

“John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005:

“I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

Does he hate his running mate?

Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007:

‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”

Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007:

“My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”

Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton:

“The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”

December 11, 2007:

In Iowa, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”

September 26, 2007:

Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.

December 26, 2006:

“Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”

[_antishock8]

Likely because she doesn't know what the depression was, what to lie about, or who to plagiarize.

Phew. Low blow.

[_Some Schmo]

Nor has Palin gone against McCain's policy...

Oh look. Again, dart shows he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Well... I'm just shocked.

[_antishock8]

Well, I'm sure Senator Biden and Senator Obama agree on Iraq?


Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein:

“He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2002:

“Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”

Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs:

“Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”

Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007:

“I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”

Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007:

“The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”

Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005:

“We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”

Biden in October of 2002:

“We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”

And yet another "gaffe" on Meet the Press, November 27, 2005:

“Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)

Jesus. I had no idea how many stupid things this guy has said and done.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Also, Palin has never said anything as historically inaccurate as Biden has about the depression,

I'm glad you added that "about the depression" part, because it shows how specific you want to make this. Given the choice to bet on either Palin or Biden on a US history exam, I would pick Biden ten out of ten times.

nor has she blatantly lied about something as Biden has,

"thanks, but no thanks, on that bridge to nowhere..."

nor has she committed the crime of plagiarism, as has Biden.

Or she hasn't been caught? You seem really sure of this one. The plagiarism charge, by the way, was discussed heavily on that liberal outlet called "CNN." It is amazing that, despite the clearly liberal media, you and antishock were able to compile all of these "facts."

Nor has Palin gone against McCain's policy and said "We're not going to support X" when in fact that is what McCain supports.

Maybe Newsbusters forgot to cover this one, else you might not have made such a false assertion. I do not believe you are being a liar simply because you appear to not know better, but you have asserted falsely.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/27 ... 3110.shtml

Again, "Obama is not ready to be President" he said. Now he says he is. Why? Because he's on the ticket. Case closed.

And what of Palin saying she wasn't ready to be VP, or something to the effect of not even knowing what a VP does? Newsbusters, away!

Well, it should be, but as Maher said, America is full of dumb people who don't care about the facts.

Dumb people= disagree with me.
Facts= everything I think.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Likely because she doesn't know what the depression was, what to lie about, or who to plagiarize.

supreme court rulings what?

[_The Dude]

On Presidential-ness:

Obama > McCain > Biden >Romney>>>>> Palin

I'm just glad the debate isn't on unti 9pm eastern so I'll get to watch an hour of Survivor first.