Obama = bad?

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Obama = bad?

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I'm not trying to see he himself is necesarily bad, more the elite that control him.

Obama’s American Dream: Servitude
“When you choose to serve — whether it’s your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood — you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That’s why it’s called the American dream,” declares Obama on the newly fashioned Office of the President-Elect website.

Obama’s vision of the American dream, however, will not consist of Americans freely choosing to volunteer to work in their communities and neighborhoods. It will be a requirement. “Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.” (Emphasis added.)
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5828


Obama’s Council On Foreign Relations Crew, out with the old regime, in with the old regime
Meet some of president elect Obama’s leading foreign and domestic policy advisors and likely administration members, every one of them a prominent member of the Council On Foreign Relations.

Will these people bring about "change" or will they continue to hold up the same entrenched system forged by the corporate elite for decades?
http://www.infowars.com/?p=5824[/b]


Obama is just going to further the police state crap that began under Bush and others before him.
This "CHANGE WE NEED" and "YES WE CAN!" rubbish, is just that, rubbish.

I'd also like to add, McCain would've done just the same sort of things.





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Interesting...
It actually looks like Obama webmasters removed references to "mandatory" volunteer brigade work... Interesting indeed.

Associate editor, Terrence Watson, posted a satirical letter from the Western Standard to American youth who could expect to be required to serve 50 to 100 hours per year in "volunteer" activities. That was the obvious implication of the statements found on Obama’s website, Change.gov.

As news of the community service army draft trickled out, Obama webmasters began to scrub references to "mandatory" and "require." Take a look at these before-and-after quotes taken from the America Serves portion of the website:

Before (notice the highlighted section, especially the word "require"):

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

After (notice that the "requirement" has been changed to "setting a goal," as well as the fact that now college students can expect to be remunerated for their "volunteering"):

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
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My LDS mission required, let's see, 208 hours of community service a year. The elite that control the LDS leaders must be really, really bad.
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That's a bad example.
The difference is, you had a choice.
You didn't have to go on a mission.
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Obama is just going to further the police state crap that began under Bush and others before him.
This "CHANGE WE NEED" and "YES WE CAN!" rubbish, is just that, rubbish.


The Obama praising jack-booted thugs of Public Allies and the Hitler Youth come to mind.
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I'm currently checking up on this, and I have to say, on the surface, it doesn't look good, at least not from my POV. So far I understand he's offering tax credits of up to $4,000 in return for 100 hours of community service.

Pauline Hanson (past Australian One Nation leader) also suggested compulsory national service for all over 18, but its teeth got knocked out pretty early.

I'll have to do some more research on this one. Got any more links?
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You don't have to go to college or high school.
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bcspace wrote:
Obama is just going to further the police state crap that began under Bush and others before him.
This "CHANGE WE NEED" and "YES WE CAN!" rubbish, is just that, rubbish.


The Obama praising jack-booted thugs of Public Allies and the Hitler Youth come to mind.

Yes, youth brigades. -__-

No RayA, I don't at this time, have you checked those articles in full? They likely have more links.
Otherwise search google news or something similar.
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Brenton wrote:No RayA, I don't at this time, have you checked those articles in full? They likely have more links.
Otherwise search google news or something similar.


I'm going through Obama's Official site, and I'm going to read all of it.
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You guys think this cat was joking when he wanted to create a "national civilian military" that was equal in power to our current military? What do you think he's going to do with it? Clean streets? Feed the homeless? Or do you think he was just talking out his ass? This dude is very serious about debt-financing, as a way to "jump start" our economy, but... Will it be on infrastructure, or will it be on an aparatus that consolidates political power?

We'll see.

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So far I understand he's offering tax credits of up to $4,000 in return for 100 hours of community service.


The question is "What kind of community service?" Obama has already proposed a national service organization "as well funded as the military" and based on Public Allies.

So, for $4000, I get to go campaign against Prop 8 for 100 hours. No thanks.
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