So the Church feels responsible to protect the Family and the moral fabric of our society. They feel Gay marriage is an affront to all of the above and should be opposed by any and all lawful means.
How does gay marriage in their opinion threaten the family exactly? Are they speaking of gay adoptions and possibly shutting down LDS social services?
When I think of moral fabric of society, I was thinking of morals that had to do with the social contract. namely, stealing, murdering, and general trampling of hte rights of other people. How does gay marriage threaten the moral fabric of society? If it's not the gay people raising children thing or the government coercing gay marriage in temples at some point, what could it be?
To just say, "it devalues the institution of marriage," seems to general for simpletons like myself to understand. In other words, it seems to me like they're avoiding spelling it out for me. What are the specific consequences that they are worried about?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
So the Church feels responsible to protect the Family and the moral fabric of our society. They feel Gay marriage is an affront to all of the above and should be opposed by any and all lawful means.
How does gay marriage in their opinion threaten the family exactly?
Because it is an immoral act condemned by God. We see overt sins on street corners everyday and we just grin and look away; because it has become COMMON. It is the Church's position, in my opinion, that this should not happen with homosexuality. It must not become common and must not be condoned.
Are they speaking of gay adoptions and possibly shutting down LDS social services?
You draw some very weird conclusions. How did gay adoption and the shutting down of LDS social services come into to play?
When I think of moral fabric of society, I was thinking of morals that had to do with the social contract. namely, stealing, murdering, and general trampling of hte rights of other people. How does gay marriage threaten the moral fabric of society? If it's not the gay people raising children thing or the government coercing gay marriage in temples at some point, what could it be?
When you choose to defy God and create a union that is contrary to the family, which is the basic unit of society, by engaging in immoral behavior condemned by God, then you begin to erode the moral fabric society.
To just say, "it devalues the institution of marriage," seems to general for simpletons like myself to understand. In other words, it seems to me like they're avoiding spelling it out for me. What are the specific consequences that they are worried about?
It turns something sacred between men and women into a cheap bastardization of an institution created and bestowed upon Father Adam and Mother Eve; by a loving Father.
I'm just guessing at all this. I'm a Mormon who thinks gay marriage is fine. The trick in life is being able to see things from both sides.
Big UP!
Lamanite
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Lamanite wrote: The trick in life is being able to see things from both sides.
Lamanite
That's what my bisexual friends keep telling me.
You see...it's crap like that, that keeps getting you kicked outta discussion boards. You gotta keep things respectable like. It was pretty clever though--LMAO!
Lamanite wrote:You see...it's s*** like that, that keeps getting you kicked outta discussion boards. You gotta keep things respectable like. It was pretty clever though--LMAO!
If I get the boot from this board, I might finally have to finally visit RFM.
You draw some very weird conclusions. How did gay adoption and the shutting down of LDS social services come into to play?
I just suspected that the government would force the Church (LDS Social Services) to place children in gay parent homes. I would also suspect the Church would shut the service down before they gave in to that. Forcing LDS social services to place children in gay parent homes seemed like a more likely and soon to come coercion by the federal government than solemnizing gay marriages in the temple.
Maybe the reasons you listed with "moral fabric," are possible. But then again, shopping on Sunday isn't moral by the Churchs stance and inevitably causes a lot of members to miss Church. The Church didn't put any money into that fight when the "blue laws," were repealed in many states. They didn't seem to take strong stance on prohibition either, at most it was a few words, no mass investment of funds.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Nah, LDS Family Services wouldn't have been affected one bit if Prop. 8 had failed. It still operates in Massachusetts, after all. The Catholic Charity only packed its bags because a lot of its funding was coming from the government, and that cash flow stopped because the government can't give money to organizations that discriminate along lines of sexual orientation.
The church's biggest fear is that if the definition of marriage is widened to include gays, which of course they curse as an abomination against God, it could widened further to include polygamy. And that's a place they don't want to go.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
harmony wrote:The church's biggest fear is that if the definition of marriage is widened to include gays, which of course they curse as an abomination against God, it could widened further to include polygamy. And that's a place they don't want to go.
Because it is not doctrinal and I don't know if we teach it. (c) GBH.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
harmony wrote:The church's biggest fear is that if the definition of marriage is widened to include gays, which of course they curse as an abomination against God, it could widened further to include polygamy. And that's a place they don't want to go.
Who is going to push to make that happen?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
