Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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Exactly, The Nehor. Thank you.
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By this logic Reagan was a friend of Hussein as he supplied aid to him during the Iran-Iraq war.


Then by your own logic, you (like (JSM) have shown unfamiliarity with history and historical context. Are we playing Chavez off against another dictator? Of course not (thought JSM likes to imagine we are). And there your logic falls down.
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I don't think we're playing Chavez against another dictator. Please stop being stupid.
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I don't think we're playing Chavez against another dictator.


That's why Nehor's logic doesn't work, duh!
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So, Obama agrees with Chavez on one point (probably for different reasons) and they (based on this) are friends.

Reagan gives Hussein money, weapons, and support for a large military campaign and they aren't friends?

Would it help if they both disagreed with the direction of Iran's current regime? After all, that's a political view and not military aid.
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So, Obama agrees with Chavez on one point (probably for different reasons) and they (based on this) are friends.


In this matter yes. Do they really only agree on one thing? Are you sure?

Reagan gives Hussein money, weapons, and support for a large military campaign and they aren't friends?


That's right. Is Obama playing one dictator of the other to maintain a balance of power? It doesn't appear you are very knowledgable about the extent of the aid either.....
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bcspace, please stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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bcspace wrote:
So, Obama agrees with Chavez on one point (probably for different reasons) and they (based on this) are friends.


In this matter yes. Do they really only agree on one thing? Are you sure?

Reagan gives Hussein money, weapons, and support for a large military campaign and they aren't friends?


That's right. Is Obama playing one dictator of the other to maintain a balance of power? It doesn't appear you are very knowledgable about the extent of the aid either.....


They might agree on more. I don't think Obama is a closet Communist though or intent on preventing the loss of his power over this nation through non-democratic means.

The aid was billions of dollars of economic aid and making sure that they had access to military hardware (usually indirectly). I personally disapprove of wars waged to maintain the balance of power. Too much like Stalinist realpolitik for me.

I liked Reagan. I like him more then I like Obama. I don't think Obama is trying to tear down the nation using ultra-socialist policies.
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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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bcspace really needs to stop and think about how much worse he's making his religion look.
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Re: Obama sides with Chavez style "democracy"

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I liked Reagan. I like him more then I like Obama. I don't think Obama is trying to tear down the nation using ultra-socialist policies.


Former Marxist SDS radical Tom Hayden would disagree with you (and so do I)..... The Possibility of an Obama-Chavez Understanding

Of course the bottom line remains that the US is calling this a military coup when the military does not run Honduras. It simply acted under the constitutional demand of the Supreme court and Congress to remove the president for trying to set himself up as president for life Chavez style.

This business about other countries falling to coups because of Honduras is hogwash. Obama is certainly dealing under the table with Chavez and General Assembly President and Lenin Peace Prize recipient Miguel D’Escoto.

Birds of a feather.....
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