Gaz wrote:I got married to my sweetheart four months after I got home. We were married in the Las Vegas Temple in April of '93 and have three great kids together. I really think she has gotten more attractive with each year we've been married. Our relationship also gets better every year.
Awww...Gazzy...You are such a romantic! I knew there was a reason I liked you! LOL
Hello, I'm Twinkie. I had a half hearted conversion to the Mormon church about 3 years ago. I still attend off and on. I decide to quit about once every 3 months but have yet to follow through.
Great thread! Hope more people participate. I often wonder what a person's status is.
Gazelam wrote:I got married to my sweetheart four months after I got home. We were married in the Las Vegas Temple in April of '93 and have three great kids together. I really think she has gotten more attractive with each year we've been married. Our relationship also gets better every year.
Awww...Gazzy...You are such a romantic! I knew there was a reason I liked you! LOL
That was so sweet. I loved reading your story Gaz! Thanks for sharing.
"Happiness is the object and design of our existence... That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
Seven wrote:I'm a California girl and didn't go to BYU. Married a BYU grad though.
Hi Seven! I just want to say that I am glad you posted what you did in your signature. Holy Cows! I finally have something credible I can show my wife! She is struggling for her faith and needs to know the truth in order to make a decesion. I think she is ready. The truth has to be faced, no matter how unpleasant it is.
Hi Ezias! :) When I first came across that letter, it blew me out of the water. Thinking of all the times I had used that quote or heard it in a lesson at church!
My TBM husband was more disturbed by the Nancy Rigdon letter than almost anything else I shared with him on Joseph Smith.
"Happiness is the object and design of our existence... That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." Joseph Smith
Bridget Jack Meyers wrote:A question I sometimes ask my believing LDS friends when the "Are Mormons Christians?" thing comes up is, if you were to find out that the LDS church is not true, would you still be a Christian?
Yes I would still be a Christian. I cannot deny Christ, I was born with a perfect faith that he lives and is the Christ. All other things, I just believe and "hope" and have faith that they are true.
Click on my link below and you can learn a little about me, if you like. We have posted back and forth before.
Seven wrote: When I first came across that letter, it blew me out of the water. Thinking of all the times I had used that quote or heard it in a lesson at church!
Our region is having a "Best of EFY" for the youth in a couple weeks. According to the flyer, one of the talks is titled "Happiness Is The Object and Design our our Existence..."
I'm guessing the talk will be light on supporting documentation.
by the way I am an eurotrash. A party boy and raver.
There are (may be?) many people in US who don't know who was (for example): - Teller Ede (Edward Teller) - Szilárd Leó (Leó Szilárd) - Neumann János (John von Neumann) - Wigner Jenő (Eugene Wigner) They were eurotrashs, too. From the same country.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
My 16-year-old daughter started attending an LDS church about a year ago, when she was in a residential treatment center for adolescent girls. She came home late in January, began attending church at the local ward, and was baptised last spring.
The LDS community here has been very good for her. She is an alcoholic, drug addict, and self-harm addict in recovery, with more than 20 months clean and sober - ever since a crisis where she threatened suicide and I sent her away for treatment, first to a wilderness therapy program and then to the rtc mentioned above.
In the local stake, she finds many teens committed to living the Word of Wisdom and lots of wholesome activites - a large peer group where her new-found lifestyle and her sense of spiritual connection are supported.
I am deeply grateful for this, beyond my capacity to express in words.
I go to church with her every Sunday, and to as many ward family activities as I can, so she can have family with her, and so I can know what's going on. I like quite a few of the TBM folks I've been coming to know, and some of them seem to be truly admirable people.
If all it took to make conversion appropriate was to like the members, I'd qualify for sure... But I will never convert. While there are some lovely things about the belief system, and I can see that some people's lives have been enriched by their membership, there are very many beliefs I cannot ever embrace.
For example, the God I have been cultivating a relationship with since an epiphany when I was 19 years old loves all of us, all of His children, so very much, and does not have only one "true" church. He welcomes each and every person who turns toward Him with love, whether he/she is a member of any church or of none.
And God doesn't care whether or not I believe any particular book to be "true." Books only have value in God's Eyes if they help me live with love, with kindness, with generosity, with integrity, with compassion, if they help me be of good use to Him and His children.
I have a couple of things I'd like to discuss with the people here. I'll be back soon.
Love is not the answer. Love is the assignment. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
I was born and raised in the LDS church. My ancestors were members of the Morman Battalion, and I still have many family members who are active Mormans. At about age 14 I became, at first a questioner of the Morman faith and later a doubter of Christianity as a whole. I do not believe in Mormanism, Christianity, Judism, Islam, Witchcraft, Astrology, palm reading, phrenology, esp, nothing ethereal. I have two daughters and would never teach them that they are second class citizens as most all religions, Christian and nonChristian teach. I do live by the Golden Rule, which by the way predated Christianity and is included in most every culture.
