Horses and the Book of Mormon

[_jskains]

http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Horses%2 ... Mormon.pdf

Thoughts?

JMS

[_truth dancer]

Hi Josh,

Have you, by any chance checked out Beastie's website or blog and the articles discussing horses?

Where there Horses in Mesoamerica?

What do you think?

~td~

[_MCB]

Nice pictures. Is it possible that some were drawn/carved shortly after 1492? How many could be of llamas, rather than horses? Is it possible that the Vikings/Norse brought horses to N America in more recent times (note ogham inscriptions)? Is it possible that some of this "evidence"was manufactured by LDS? I don't buy it as substantiation of LDS claims.

[_jskains]

Nice pictures. Is it possible that some were drawn/carved shortly after 1492? How many could be of llamas, rather than horses? Is it possible that the Vikings/Norse brought horses to N America in more recent times (note ogham inscriptions)? Is it possible that some of this "evidence"was manufactured by LDS? I don't buy it as substantiation of LDS claims.

Lots of things are possible. Your not going to find absolute evidence either way.

You do know all religions suffer through these same problems? Christianity without Mormonism still suffers.

JMS

[_MCB]

Christianity without Mormonism still suffers.

Mormonism without Christianity suffers worse.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Josh,

Have you looked through Beastie's site I linked?

We need to have some sort of starting point so it would be good to know where you are with all the information.

:-)

~td~

[_Yoda]

Hi Josh,

Have you looked through Beastie's site I linked?

We need to have some sort of starting point so it would be good to know where you are with all the information.

:-)

~td~

It looks like your link was faulty, TD.

Try this one:

http://mormonmesoamerica.blogspot.com/s ... bel/Horses

;-)

Josh...I am so glad you decided to start a topic here! Welcome to the board...thanks for giving us a chance! :)

This may be slightly off-topic, Josh, and forgive me if it is, but I am curious. Which theory do you subscribe to in regards to where the Book of Mormon took place?

Do you believe that the happenings in the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica, as many of the apologists claim, or do you believe that the Book of Mormon took place in the US?

Honestly, I have actually always believed the latter, which, I guess, is considered more of a "chapel Mormon" belief in that sense.

What are your views?

[_jskains]

This may be slightly off-topic, Josh, and forgive me if it is, but I am curious. Which theory do you subscribe to in regards to where the Book of Mormon took place?

Do you believe that the happenings in the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica, as many of the apologists claim, or do you believe that the Book of Mormon took place in the US?

Honestly, I have actually always believed the latter, which, I guess, is considered more of a "chapel Mormon" belief in that sense.

What are your views?

I take the idea of the "lost" civilization very seriously. I think the evidence has been merged into other cultures. I don't buy into the limited geography theory. I believe that the Lamanities are the "Principle" ancestors of the American peoples.

Belief in the Book of Mormon is also belief in supernatural. There were no natural means for the development of the Book of Mormon in a truly believing sense. It isn't natural for rocks to display letters like a computer. :)

Because the belief in the Book of Mormon requires faith, science is not interested in it as a source of history. Since this is the case, I believe things that science or archeology find that might be from Nephi or any of his decendents/followers, I worry that science will miss-classify those evidences.

Say a small group makes pots. But they were nomadic. They go into another, more prominant culture and present their pots, then teach them how to make those pots. The nomadic group moves on and is killed off, leaving no trace of their existance. Archeology finds the pots in the more prominant culture and decide THEY must have made those pots. Archeology simply will never know that they were taught to make those pots from another group.

I also accept that the Book of Mormon itself describes a lot of loose usages of the term Lamanite. We see adoption and at one point everyone who was against the Nephites was called a Lamanite. So I find the DNA search a lost cause.

That is just my thoughts. :)

JMS

[_just me]

The link in the OP wouldn't work for me. It just wouldn't even load. :(

[_jskains]

The link in the OP wouldn't work for me. It just wouldn't even load. :(

Do you have Adobe Reader installed? It is a PDF.

JMS