Horses and the Book of Mormon

[_Yoda]

I don't buy into the limited geography theory.

I don't either. I think that buying into the limited geography theory negates a large portion of the Book of Mormon narrative.

[_just me]

The link in the OP wouldn't work for me. It just wouldn't even load. :(

Do you have Adobe Reader installed? It is a PDF.

JMS

Yeah. Maybe not the latest version. ? It just won't load at all. I'll try a different way.

[_MCB]

Yeah, there has been a recent upgrade of Adobe Reader.

[_MsJack]

I've never been the sort of person to argue over anachronisms in the Book of Mormon. It's not my thing. However, this is what beastie had to say about the Chapman Web site in the Terrestrial Forum on Friday, June 25:

Man, how I wish you had gone to the website. I'd love to know if it's Chapman's. I "love" that website, and it's constantly regurgitated by MADdites. The guy includes examples of known frauds as "evidence" of horses.

http://chapmanresearch.org/PDF/Horses%2 ... Mormon.pdf

I'd really love to know if this is the quality of research the church relies on.

Perhaps we could get beastie to come elaborate on this, since she's so familiar with the topic?

[_jskains]

Yes it would be nice to see facts of how these are frauds other than the sweeping judgement of a single person. :)

JMS

[Guest]

Yes it would be nice to see facts of how these are frauds other than the sweeping judgement of a single person. :)

Patience.

The first picture displayed in the article you linked to, "Peru's Incredible Ica Stones," is definitely a hoax, and a bad one from the looks of it.

EDIT: The pamphlet cites the Ica hoax a second time on its final page.

[_MsJack]

The first page of that pamphlet refers to a horse skull found in a burial mound in Wisconsin. This seems to be a reference to the Spencer Lake Hoax. Beastie explains the hoax on her site in detail, here.

[_jskains]

Is there a better website on this Inca hoax? That guy is so obnoxious in his sarcasm, it is hard to really take him seriously.

JMS

[_MsJack]

It looks like the coins from Burrow's Cave (cited on the second to last page of the article) are a hoax as well. I really don't have time to check into the others, but that's 3-4 hoaxes cited as evidence of pre-Columbian horses in that article. Doesn't sound like a very reliable article to me.

Is there a better website on this Inca hoax? That guy is so obnoxious in his sarcasm, it is hard to really take him seriously.

Here is another site that discusses the hoax.

I think the better question is, do you know of any archaeological journals or organizations that take the Ica stones seriously? It's not my area of expertise by a long shot, but I'd be surprised if any of them do. Just the fact that the people who "found" the stones couldn't or wouldn't take researchers to the site where they were discovered sets off a huge red flag.

[_jskains]

I think the better question is, do you know of any archaeological journals or organizations that take the Ica stones seriously? It's not my area of expertise by a long shot, but I'd be surprised if any of them do. Just the fact that the people who "found" the stones couldn't or wouldn't take researchers to the site where they were discovered sets off a huge red flag.

This article doesn't make or break me. I didn't even know about it until a few days ago. I am just trying to learn. Ultimately for me I accept lack of evidence not being absolute evidence. And the horse issue is kinda vague. Isn't even the mention of horses kinda limited anyways?

JMS