Word-of-Wisdom

[_Roger Morrison]

Does it -- The word Of Wisdom -- still remain a stone in the foundation of LDSism?

How does Current-day obesity fit into Latter-day teachings of what and how to eat?

Has revelation ceased in this matter?

Or, is this one of those, "... listen to today's Prophets..."? Who we don't hear say anything.

Dr. Oz, and others, see this North American epidemic as a morbid, preventable threat to humans living productive, happy lives.

When LDSism keeps people out of the Celestial Kingdom for drinking tea or coffee!! How can they not see the incongruity of allowing entry to the place of highest reward, to those who live Church teachings, to those who so obviously don't?

The obvious unhealth of over-eating pales ERA, that took LDS funds and members to battle; as well abortion and Gay/Lesbian rights that effect a tiny number of people. Obesity knows no gender, no age, no limits and yet an institution that brags about their members good health has not raised a public voice with any volume! How come? YIKES!!!

Roger-on-a-rant wonders. . . Roger M.

[_SoHo]

I would support a strong push from church leadership (frankly of any church) towards physical fitness and living within one's ideal BMI range as spiritual principles. Mastery of one's natural being should include control over food selection and intake as much as it should avoidance of harmful and addictive substances. in my opinion, it is hypocritical for the fat bishop to deny a temple recommend to the otherwise fit member who indulges in the occasional glass of wine - unless he also denies himself that privilege. Perhaps an impediment to church leaders in taking such a position is that some of them would have to actually comply - and some of them clearly haven't mastered their physical beings in terms of food consumption.

[_Joseph]

The word of wisdom in LDSinc is little more than a way to lord it over people by making guilt part of the process of 'being true' to the corporation.
It has no real meaning and is worthless for most for anything else than this.

[_Roger Morrison]

SoHo said:

"Perhaps an impediment to church leaders in taking such a position is that some of them would have to actually comply - and some of them clearly haven't mastered their physical beings in terms of food consumption."

Might that be because they haven't mastered the need of oral gratification? Since cigarettes and sundry beverages, that can gratify the oral urge are prohibited. What choice is left? A person can only chew so much off of their finger nails. Breasts, that satisfied them as babies are not publicly available. Food quells the mood!

As chain smoking and over indulgence in alcohol and addictive drugs indicate a personality problem addressed by professional treatment, so chronic over indulgence in food is symptomatic of obsessive tendencies. Why not LDS, SS classes set up, much as Over Eaters Anonymous??? Would be more earth-while than Genealogy classes?

Just another worldly challenge for Mormons. See what edicts will come forth. . .

Roger M.

[_rallychild]

The whole word of wisdom controversy is beyond me. I still don't understand it. It seems that every LDS person or bishop I talk to about this still can't come up with an adequate rebuttal to this problem. I am not comfortable accepting their sheltered primary answers. I agree with what Soho said: I think it is pure hypocrisy that an obese bishop is denying a temple recommend to an occasional wine drinker, while he himself as an obese person is allowed to attend. It makes no sense.

[_Joseph]

Be sure to eat meat in times of cold or famine. So, have steak and burgers in air conditioned restaurants, during the winter and whenever you have missed a meal or on Fast Sunday?

[_MCB]

Be sure to eat meat in times of cold or famine. So, have steak and burgers in air conditioned restaurants, during the winter and whenever you have missed a meal or on Fast Sunday?

Excuses like that won't lower your cholesterol.

[_Joseph]

"Some of the brethren are very strenuous upon the "Word of Wisdom," and would like to have me preach upon it, and urge it upon the brethren, and make it a test of fellowship. I do not think that I shall do so. I have never done so." Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, made in the Tabernacle,
Great Salt Lake City, April 7, 1861.

[_Roger Morrison]

"Some of the brethren are very strenuous upon the "Word of Wisdom," and would like to have me preach upon it, and urge it upon the brethren, and make it a test of fellowship. I do not think that I shall do so. I have never done so." Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, made in the Tabernacle,
Great Salt Lake City, April 7, 1861.

If congregations came to meetings falling-down-drunk, or staggering, I think Brigham, or any other LDS leader, would take serious issue with their behavior, then or now. Yet today we see folks of all ages and social positions waddle into Church and Temple gatherings as if their physical condition was irrelevant to their spiritual, physical, mental and emotional health.

It's remarkable that LDSism is so conscious, and critical, of what members wear yet seem indifferent to the health and waste issues of gluttony. Not an acceptable practice, according to, "the word of God." Ya gotta wonder???

Is obesity being seriously addressed in The Ensign? Facts? Stats? Consequences? Possible causes/motivations???

Roger M.

[_Joseph]

Is it OK to be a fat girl if you only one pair of earrings?