As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Why me, he said the same thing about this topic not once, but at least twice and perhaps more. And at least once it was not in TV but with a writer from Time. He has plenty of time to answer it.

Face it dude. He dodged the question. Even as a TBM I knew he dodged it. And I defended his dodging then.


It is difficult to dodge something that is still actively taught in church. With the larry king interview, larry was throwing him many questions. I admit that Hinckley did not do a good job...but for a guy his age, he did okay. There was a fear that he may be able to manage larry. Not many interviewees did manage well with larry.

However, the critics love a misspeak. They salivate over it for years and years and never give it a rest.
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Nightlion wrote:There were never any Mormons to match their mountains.


Hey Nightlion! Something we both agree on. I didn't think it was possible. I love the Wasatch!
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Darth J wrote:I feel so blessed to have a modern-day Aristotle among us


Thanks Darth, I like you too.


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why me wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:
Why me, he said the same thing about this topic not once, but at least twice and perhaps more. And at least once it was not in TV but with a writer from Time. He has plenty of time to answer it.

Face it dude. He dodged the question. Even as a TBM I knew he dodged it. And I defended his dodging then.


It is difficult to dodge something that is still actively taught in church. With the larry king interview, larry was throwing him many questions. I admit that Hinckley did not do a good job...but for a guy his age, he did okay. There was a fear that he may be able to manage larry. Not many interviewees did manage well with larry.

However, the critics love a misspeak. They salivate over it for years and years and never give it a rest.


By misspeak, you really mean "lie" right?
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Hinckley: "I don't know that we teach it. I don't know that we emphasize it. I haven't heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don't know. I don't know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don't know a lot about it and I don't know that others know a lot about it."

So where did he lie? I have shown in the gospel principles manual where it is taught now. But when I read what he said in the interview...he is not denying the principle. And it is true, that we just don't know a lot about the doctrine. He didn't say that we didn't teach it or don't teach it. It sounds like an old ninety year old man trying to grapple with his thougths.
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harmony wrote:
I'm trying to figure out why this doctrine is so terrible that our leaders have to lie about it. Why not just say "yeah, we do... next question?"


Exactly!

Almost universally, people respect someone who says what they really believe rather than trying to pander.

I thought this was not one of President Hinckley's best moments. He went to the interview with the standard pat answers ready to go.

The pat answer to anything of a historical nature that makes the LDS Church look strange, odd or bad, is to say it was a long time ago and we don't do that anymore.

Polygamy? That's old news. We don't do that anymore. Next question.

Priesthood ban on blacks? That's old news. We don't do that anymore. Next question.


I think what happened here is that President Hinckley got hit with a question he wasn't expecting and then rather lamely tried to fit it into the canned response he had learned for the other questions.

But you are right. He should have just said, "Yes, we do. Next question."

What a difference that would have made.

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why me wrote:It sounds like an old ninety year old man trying to grapple with his thougths.


As does pretty much everything President Hinckley had to say.
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consiglieri wrote:
But you are right. He should have just said, "Yes, we do. Next question."

What a difference that would have made.

All the Best!

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Okay...lets hope that at ninety you can give a perfect answer inside a perfect mind when you face an interviewer like larry king. Thumbs up.
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Darth J wrote:
why me wrote:It sounds like an old ninety year old man trying to grapple with his thougths.


As does pretty much everything President Hinckley had to say.


And yet, he was a decent fellow. How sad that a person needs to bring up an interview of a ninety year old man to score points. And yet, the rest of his life is forgotten. But...such is skimming for trying to find a life in five minutes.
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consiglieri wrote:

Polygamy? That's old news. We don't do that anymore. Next question.

Priesthood ban on blacks? That's old news. We don't do that anymore. Next question.



That's okay but not very satisfying to most people. Here is what they could do:

Polygamy? We messed up. We don't do that anymore. Next question.

Priesthood ban on blacks? We messed up. We don't do that anymore. Next question.
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