As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.

[_Tator]

So, BC, did Gordon lie?

[_thews]

This isn't a Christian mindset. Mormons love to pretend they're Christians, but being Mormon means you actually believe in the doctrine of Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith's doctrine is not Christian... it's Mormon.

LDS doctrine is the ultimate in Christianity. All the scriptures are in harmony with LDS doctrine, unlike the lesser christian heretical philosophies which cause Bible verses to conflict. For example bla bla blaaa

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The "ultimate" in Christianity BC? Let's play a game ok? Here's how it works... I say something you can't answer, you run away, and later claim to have made your point so strongly, that any idiot could see just how right you are. Wanna play... cuz you're the only one playing. You continue to make these ridiculous posts on how you best Darth on any given subject, and it's just mindless tripe. You continue to evade my direct question to you regarding Brigham Young's bigotry and your supposed "research" and you just continue to run away. Who are you kidding anyway. Your inner self that is suppressed by Mormonism needs to be let out... be you BC. Just be who you are, but stop the pretend game already, because you're the only one playing.

[_bcspace]

So, BC, did Gordon lie?

Nope. He developed his answer out loud with an eye to milk before meat. During that development, he did not say anything that could be mistaken for something incorrect, contradictory, or controversial by the intellectually honest.

[_bcspace]

The "ultimate" in Christianity BC? Let's play a game ok? Here's how it works... I say something you can't answer, you run away, and later claim to have made your point so strongly, that any idiot could see just how right you are. Wanna play... cuz you're the only one playing. You continue to make these ridiculous posts on how you best Darth on any given subject, and it's just mindless tripe. You continue to evade my direct question to you regarding Brigham Young's bigotry and your supposed "research" and you just continue to run away. Who are you kidding anyway. Your inner self that is suppressed by Mormonism needs to be let out... be you BC. Just be who you are, but stop the pretend game already, because you're the only one playing.

No games. Just simple debating rules. As soon as you start to diverge from the subject or not provide actual references for claims, I've won. Simple as that.

[_Tator]

So, BC, did Gordon lie?

Nope. He developed his answer out loud with an eye to milk before meat. During that development, he did not say anything that could be mistaken for something incorrect, contradictory, or controversial by the intellectually honest.

Well, when I get a black eye like Gordon got I would rather have a piece of red meat for my eye than milk.

I think the milk answer looks like a lie to Mr. and Mrs. John/Jane Q. Public, it sure does to me.

[_bcspace]

I think the milk answer looks like a lie to Mr. and Mrs. John/Jane Q. Public, it sure does to me.

Why?

[_Tator]

I think the milk answer looks like a lie to Mr. and Mrs. John/Jane Q. Public, it sure does to me.

Why?

He had a chance to witness to the world and he copped out because he thought the meat would look like something to be embarrassed about. That is my take.

Every member should see "I don't know that we teach it" as a lie. Every non-member (at worst) would look at it as a weird doctrine.

What would have been the implications of him stating the meat?

[_bcspace]

He had a chance to witness to the world and he copped out because he thought the meat would look like something to be embarrassed about. That is my take.

Every member should see "I don't know that we teach it" as a lie. Every non-member (at worst) would look at it as a weird doctrine.

What would have been the implications of him stating the meat?

He didn't simply say "I don't know that we teach it". He developed his answer with the effect that I described. I agree that when someone with an antiLDS agenda repeats only that part without addressing the rest one might get the impression you claim, but since that is not the only thing he said, I trust in the intellectually honest which an antiLDS critic can never be.

[_Runtu]

He didn't simply say "I don't know that we teach it". He developed his answer with the effect that I described. I agree that when someone with an antiLDS agenda repeats only that part without addressing the rest one might get the impression you claim, but since that is not the only thing he said, I trust in the intellectually honest which an antiLDS critic can never be.

I don't know that it was a lie, but it wasn't exactly the whole truth, either. In my view, it was a fudging of an answer to avoid dealing with a difficult and possibly embarrassing topic on national TV. Does holding that opinion make me intellectually dishonest? Probably to you, but not to me.

[_Tchild]

So, BC, did Gordon lie?

Nope. He developed his answer out loud with an eye to milk before meat. .

CFR that 'God once as a man' is "meat". CFR that the obvious dog-and-pony waffling show that GBH performed constituted sharing the "milk".

CFR that you aren't a sock-puppet of an intern in a mental home that has access to a computer passing himself/herself off as a Mormon believer.