Does current Mormonism reflect the teachings of the Book of Mormon...?

[_jon]

It bothers me that 'the most correct book' containing the 'fulness of the Gospel' doesn't seem to mention/reflect the current practices of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am no expert on it's contents but where does it show the Nephites:
1. Doing temple work etc?
2. Paying tithing?
3. Taking the sacrament?
4. Wearing special underwear?
5. Discriminating over sexuality?
6. Going to Church?

It would seem to me that Mormonism has changed from Nephite times, does that make it apostate?

[_just me]

I don't think they talk about being confirmed a member of the church, either. Receiving the holy ghost doesn't seem to involve laying on of hands.

The baptism prayer is different.

The way they do sacrament is different.

[_mjz1]

If you really want to know these answers you should actually read the Book of Mormon alittle closer, but here are some hints:

1. What is one of the first things Nephi build's in the new world? (Hint: It's built after the manner of Solomon's)
2. When Jesus Christ comes to the America's in his resurrected form, he commands them to record what is now to us Malachi 3. Read that chapter and see what it refers too. Or its in 3 Nephi 24.
3. Once again when Christ comes to the America's one of the first things He institutes is the Sacrament: 3 Nephi 18.
4. The Holy Garment is not directly mentioned in the Book of Mormon, but it surely is in the Bible: Ex. 28:2, Lev. 6:10.
5. Read Jacob 2 or Alma 39. This is not a matter of discriminating against sexuality, it is for the simple fact that Sexual Intercourse has been and always will be restricted to between a Man and Woman Legally and Lawfully Wed. As much as the world strives to justify this sin God nor the true Church will ever back down from teaching that this sin is second only to murder. (Aside from denying the Holy Ghost which many are not even capable of committing.)
6. The concept of believers gathering together to fellowship and partake of the sacrament in remembrance of the Lord Jesus Christ is so amply taught throughout the New Testament and Book of Mormon that no references are needed, you can find them for yourself if you so desire.

As for Just Me's comments:
1. Moro. 2:2
2. 3 Nephi 11:27 Is the exact way Baptism's are performed within the Church, as Jesus Christ himself Commanded.
3. Moro. 4 & 5 Are the exact prayers offered in Sacrament services in the Church, as Jesus Christ himself commanded.

The answers are out there Brethren, you just have to look. Strive not to create doubt before you do your research. The Church is True, and you can know it for yourself if you seek the Revelation of God that he promises to all those who are honest and true in their seeking.

[_jon]

mjz1

Solomon's temple...<frowns>...remind me again what ordinances took place there...

Also tithing - you seem to have missed that one...

And the special underwear, can't seem to find where you mention that...

Additional references needed for these and:

12 year old Deacons?
Racial discrimination?
Polygamy?
Secret combinations...<pauses>...oh, wait, scratch that...

[_Buffalo]

Tithing is in the Book of Mormon - Jesus quotes Malachi when he comes for tea.

[_just me]

If you really want to know these answers you should actually read the Book of Mormon alittle closer, but here are some hints:

1. What is one of the first things Nephi build's in the new world? (Hint: It's built after the manner of Solomon's)

Was it an Aaronic PH temple or a Melch PH temple?
What kind of things were done there?
Since the Lehi clan was not of the Levites they would be in violation of the Law of Moses if they conducted any sacrifices. In fact, I'm pretty sure that all sacrifices were supposed to be done at Jerusalem.

2. When Jesus Christ comes to the America's in his resurrected form, he commands them to record what is now to us Malachi 3. Read that chapter and see what it refers too. Or its in 3 Nephi 24.

Yeah. Tithing is mentioned in the Book of Mormon. So is something similar to the law of consecration. However, it also says that the poor and needy are to receive of the tithes-not to be tithed.

3. Once again when Christ comes to the America's one of the first things He institutes is the Sacrament: 3 Nephi 18.

Yep. Sacrament is part of the gospel contained in the Book of Mormon.

4. The Holy Garment is not directly mentioned in the Book of Mormon, but it surely is in the Bible: Ex. 28:2, Lev. 6:10.

We are talking about the Book of Mormon. It is supposed to contain the fulness of the gospel.
I'm pretty sure that the garment in the Old Testament is nothing like the underwear that LDS wear.

5. Read Jacob 2 or Alma 39. This is not a matter of discriminating against sexuality, it is for the simple fact that Sexual Intercourse has been and always will be restricted to between a Man and Woman Legally and Lawfully Wed. As much as the world strives to justify this sin God nor the true Church will ever back down from teaching that this sin is second only to murder. (Aside from denying the Holy Ghost which many are not even capable of committing.)

Wow. Loving, consentual sex is second only to murder. Where does torture land on the scale? Or slavery? How 'bout lying to people to fraud them out of thousands of dollars?

6. The concept of believers gathering together to fellowship and partake of the sacrament in remembrance of the Lord Jesus Christ is so amply taught throughout the New Testament and Book of Mormon that no references are needed, you can find them for yourself if you so desire.

I would tend to agree. Although, the church was nothing like today in terms of heirarchy and administration.

As for Just Me's comments:
1. Moro. 2:2

My bad. However, it doesn't say anything about being confirmed a member of a particular church.

2. 3 Nephi 11:27 Is the exact way Baptism's are performed within the Church, as Jesus Christ himself Commanded.

Really? Because it actually has slightly different wording than D&C 20. I thought D&C 20 is what is currently used. If someone used the wording as it is in the Book of Mormon I am pretty sure they would be told they said it wrong and to do it over.

However, the issue goes beyond the prayer alteration. There are other things a person is supposed to do before they can be accepted for baptism. Like public confession of sins. (Moroni 6:2)

3. Moro. 4 & 5 Are the exact prayers offered in Sacrament services in the Church, as Jesus Christ himself commanded.

Now you are just being silly. I have never heard the sacrament prayer given with the word "wine" nor have I ever received wine for it. The sacrament is to be administered by the priests and elders....we use deacons, teachers and priests. The entire church is to kneel together for the prayer.

It's not the same.

The answers are out there Brethren, you just have to look. Strive not to create doubt before you do your research. The Church is True, and you can know it for yourself if you seek the Revelation of God that he promises to all those who are honest and true in their seeking.

I searched the scriptures nearly every day for hours at a time for over a year. My only goal was to know what God would have me do.
The church ain't what it claims to be.

[_Baker]

The Book of Mormon is often garbled in terms of what it actually teaches about a church and worship. Take the odd example of Alma setting up churches among the already-Christian Nephites who lived under the direction of the prophet-king Mosiah.

[Guest]

Sexual Intercourse has been and always will be restricted to between a Man and Woman Legally and Lawfully Wed. As much as the world strives to justify this sin God nor the true Church will ever back down from teaching that this sin is second only to murder. (Aside from denying the Holy Ghost which many are not even capable of committing.)

A couple of points - in the first century Christian church, they didn't even have such a thing as a Christian wedding ceremony. Christians who wanted to get married later borrowed the Roman ceremony. But there was no such thing as "legally married." For a first century Christian, getting "married" was what we would today call "shacking up."

Second, Joseph Smith was not legally married to any of his wives except Emma. I guess Joseph committed the sin next to murder with 32+ women.

[_bcspace]

It bothers me that 'the most correct book' containing the 'fulness of the Gospel'

It says Gospel (the good news) not Gospel doctrine.

"Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word?"

[_Buffalo]

It bothers me that 'the most correct book' containing the 'fulness of the Gospel'

It says Gospel (the good news) not Gospel doctrine.

"Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word?"

That's one of the better apologetic responses, fair enough.

Although it's troubling that the church doesn't really seem to believe much of the Good News preached in the Book of Mormon.