My apology

[_dogmatic]

My experience:
I come from a cult that would make Mormons look like hughe heffner. In this cult we were one sermon away from animal sacrifice. And we obeyed the law in ways that soul put a pharacacy to shame. My parents are thirty years released from this cult and still in a way controls thier life. And in a way it still controls my life. I would say that I still wake up in sweats that I will burn in hell because I have left this faith. Ofcourse Mormons have no concept or fear of such a hell. At the worst they will be in the 2nd hevan. And hell, outer darkness is reserved for Satan and ex Mormons. I even heard a Mormon say that hitler would e in the third heaven. But enough about that. I know personally and intimately what it is to follow the law. To redeemed by obedience. And I would say there is no hell that awaits that is worse than the fear in legalisim. Because, I can not do my best, and as much as I would like to say, do not do my best. I sin as I brush my hair in the mirror. Vanity. And I guess Because my cult is so small and has no forums or blogs that I must latch on to this religion of mormonisim that reminds me so much of my cult. Yes we did have ordinances on underware. This was a babtist cult.

So in my apology. I have had to repent seveal times since joining this forum. Because I have mocked and Been in contention. and to be honest I probably will again. Mormons are ducks in a pond. They have the weakest history and phropets that I have ever encountered. So it's so easy to mock them. To talk abbot the Adam god or people on the moon. But I feel sorry for doing this. And I hope that I might have serious conversations with people I feel so close to. God bless.

[_Jason Bourne]

The History and foundations of Christianity is full of holes as well as horror and abominations. Have you seriously studies it at all?

Every religion starts out as a type of a cult, at least of you look at the definition, even Christianity.

The Mormon Church is no more a cult than any other main line denomination.


Also I guarantee you it there is a God he won't burn someone forever because they believed that baptism or other ordinances were a part of the steps of their covenant. Nor will he send them to be eternal toast because they believe there are varying levels of heaven. Nor will he send them to burn and burn for not having the incomprehensible theological intricacies of how three persons are one god but still three persons.

Nor will he send them to hell for coming up with the utter incomprehensible ideas that the creeds result in, or for thinking that someone has to get that right or they are going to hell, or for coming up with the idea that there really is such a place that this God wants to send his creations too.

[_moksha]

Actually this Pit of Chaos is reserved for the 1/3 host and those of earthly parentage who have had full and perfect knowledge of the Divine yet for the sake of being contrary still denied it. Of course, they were probably ardent supporters of the DMCA as well.

[_dogmatic]

I think evry Mormon argument reduces to this. Okay okay were crazy! But so are the Christians! So why can't we be a big boy pants religion like them? Then they stomp off to thier room.

[_Jason Bourne]

Weaknesses in the foundations of Christianity do not help the LDS Church. That is never my point when I bring such things up. I just think many LDS critics don't analyze their own faith tradition with the same critical eye they apply to Mormonism. I expect them to do so.

[_dogmatic]

Mabye you don't. I understand mormonisim is kind of a wild west. Everyone seems to belive this or that, whatever doesn't offend them. But I have interacted with many Many Mormons. The cult I was in was made up of ex-Mormons. And we know all the handshakes passords and inside scoop. This is a tactic that is used over and over when those scriptures are attacked by Christians. I'm not one of those that Denys those hard ships in our scripture. But the Mormons need to start standing on there own two feet. If you would compare the Christian scriptures to the Mormon and say that they are some how comparable in history then you really are just ignorant. Not stupid! Igonerent. You won't see any prominent scholars debating mormonisim. There is a reason for this. it's evidence is absurd. Atleast with the Bible, history is still being discovered through it's existence. If that's all we have, it's enough to give it a little respect. We have yet to discover elephants glass and horses greek king James language in and on in America. Mabye we will. But until then I will stick with a pretty reliable historical document as far as antiquity is concerned.

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[_dogmatic]

I don't want you to get me wrong. It's so hard to portray your feelings face expressions and heart on a forum. Especially for me because of that cult I was illiterate for most of my life. Growing up in shanties. But I'm not now. But language in me is not as old as it is in you. My heart is a heart that hurts for people that are decived. I was deceived. I spent the last 20 years looking for god in every religion there is. I'm biest. I want there to be a god. But after years spent with Mormons with talks around the dinner table. I belive you are in as much bondage as I was. In bondage of the law. Read Jesus and Paul. Find grace. Full forgiveness that no temple ceremony can give. No repentance can yelled. A grace that is full and complete with no work of your own. No more relience on man No more fear no more condemnation. But peace that passes all understanding. God bless you in your journey. I'm done with this site. It brings up to much pride in me. I hope some day you will enjoy coffee and tea and thank god for his creation. I in no ways think you are not saved or any other Mormon. I think you are in a horrible bondage of mans laws. God tells us these ruthless people that heap more than a man can bare. That make laws where there are no laws. Life is hard enough as it is. We don't need mans laws. Bye Mormon discussion.

[_dogmatic]

Haha my wife was back on her computer and read my post. I fell in love with her in the cult. Her mother was my birth mother or I forget what they call the woman that helps birth you. She also has been devistated by this Mormon/christian cult and she has different veiws weather I should continue on this forum. She thinks I should since I have such a knowledge of Mormons. Okay then well see. But I will try to portray myself with less contention. Well see.

[_just me]

Haha my wife was back on her computer and read my post. I fell in love with her in the cult. Her mother was my birth mother or I forget what they call the woman that helps birth you. She also has been devistated by this Mormon/christian cult and she has different veiws weather I should continue on this forum. She thinks I should since I have such a knowledge of Mormons. Okay then well see. But I will try to portray myself with less contention. Well see.

I am so confused. I thought you said that marriage wasn't for you on your other thread.

Hey, I am hoping your wifes mother was not the same person as your mother. Do you mean she was the midwife?