If the Book of Mormon is true...

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stemelbow wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:Actually, I'm just pretending to be nice, in order to lull you into a state of false security. When the Danites bust down your door -- did you really think that name was a coincidence? -- you'll wish that you had agreed with me, but it'll be too late.

Lol. Sadly it seems like some here think this type of stuff does happen. Just a minute I swear I just heard my door abruptly fly open...

If poor wretched Scratch reads this, he's going to need his smelling salts right away.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:If poor wretched Scratch reads this, he's going to need his smelling salts right away.


Don't fret it. It seems to me that guy is going to make something out of nothing any chance he feels he gets. He tries to take all the fun out of it, but I still manage somehow.
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jon wrote:Stem, I don't think you'll find too many issues with expressing liberal views here, Sunday School on the other hand...
Unfortunately, or so it seems to me, you cannot be TBM and liberal, it's either/or.


I can't deny that there are those LDS who see it as you describe, but I've never had much trouble with it. I don't mean to mislead, although I'm fairly liberal politically I'm not really all that extreme. I'm fairly moderate on many things.

I read on another thread that you are 'expecting' in the not too distant future - good luck, I hope all goes well with that.[/quote]

Thanks. We're excited--first girl.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:stemelbow, I don't think that the critics made a good argument at all that Grant Palmer is in any relevant sense an insider with respect to the historiography of Mormonism.


We're well aware of your contempt for the Church Educational System. However, as professor in Islamic studies, this one is really above your pay grade.
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Buffalo wrote:We're well aware of your contempt for the Church Educational System.

Yet another lie.

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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Buffalo wrote:We're well aware of your contempt for the Church Educational System.

Yet another lie.

20.27 posts per day from B. Chip, according to current statistics.


It's the logical implication of your contempt for Palmer's qualifications to discuss Mormon history.

Thanks for the stats. I'll have to up my output.
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Re: If the Book of Mormon is true...

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Before we get sidetracked...

The Book of Mormon says God is unchangeable.

The current Mormon doctrine says that God was once a man and has, therefore, changed.

Is God unchangeable?
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011)

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jon wrote:Before we get sidetracked...

The Book of Mormon says God is unchangeable.

The current Mormon doctrine says that God was once a man and has, therefore, changed.

Is God unchangeable?


Why do I think we are heading for a definition of unchangeable that is changeable?
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Re: If the Book of Mormon is true...

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Fence Sitter wrote:
jon wrote:Before we get sidetracked...

The Book of Mormon says God is unchangeable.

The current Mormon doctrine says that God was once a man and has, therefore, changed.

Is God unchangeable?


Why do I think we are heading for a definition of unchangeable that is changeable?


Lol, no change there then...
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Re: If the Book of Mormon is true...

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On the "unchangeable" question: If you're going to poison the well in advance, and say that those who fail to agree with you are writing in bad faith, there's not much incentive for any reasonable person to bother responding to you.

Buffalo wrote:It's the logical implication of your contempt for Palmer's qualifications to discuss Mormon history.

Not even remotely.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/non+sequitur
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