Joseph: Polygamy was a mistake.

[_harmony]

Dear Harmony,
Are you a member of the church?

Calling holding, tithe paying, temple recommend holding member for the last 41 years.

Do you beleive the gospel is true?

The gospel, yes. The church, no.

Do you beleive J.S and B.Y were prophets?

Joseph lost his prophetic mantle when he laid Fanny down in the hay and dropped his pants. BY never had it.

Honestly it sounds as if you are more interested in giving guidence rather than receiving it?

I am, by training, a guidance counselor, although currently I am employed trying irradicate the scourge of this generation.

Or are you are a man hater?

Not at all. I love my DH, my sons (all 7 of them, including the one who married one of my daughters), my bishop, a few of the guys here, and a few men in real life. The Brethren, though? Well, hate is a strong word; mostly I'm profoundly disappointed in them.

Do you beleive that revelation requires your approval?

For me, yes.

But not to worry, as living this higher law may well be out of your scope.

You've yet to find a higher law for me to live. Try again.

[_harmony]

So far between the two of you A.I. gather that this is not an LDS forum but a Bible bashing forum.

Who is Bible bashing?

This is Mormon Discussions. We exist, by definition, to discuss Mormonism. That has no value statement attached (we aren't pro or anti).

[_Mihalj]

Do you beleive the gospel is true

The gospel, yes. The church, no. Joseph lost his prophetic mantle when he laid Fanny down in the hay and dropped his pants. BY never had it.

You say you have a Temple recomend yet you take this stance, WOW


Do you beleive that revelation requires your approval?For me, yes.

Well from your reply and the other staments i doubt that you have a recomend because you would have answered the worthyness Q's in the negative, So you either lied in the interview, lied about being a member or a just plain confusedHonestly it sounds as if you are more interested in giving guidence rather than receiving it, this just gets better, you obviously are a very important person for prohesy to have your approval, that surely is brave, still that is what agency is all about[/quote]ote]

I am, by training, a guidance counselor, although currently I am employed trying irradicate the scourge of this generation.
Funny that is excactly what our parents said about us, it is nice to see you as our saviour.

You've yet to find a higher law for me to live. Try again But not to worry, as living this higher law may well be out of your scope. Lets see try a little humility or perhaps telling the truth, some repentence and lets not forget the law of concecration

[_harmony]

When you get called as my bishop, we'll have something to talk about. Until then, your attempt at unrighteous dominion is duly noted and rejected.

I have a current recommend and I don't have to lie to get it. You might want to review the questions again. The next time you're in the temple, look across the aisle. I may be one of those women.

[_Blixa]

...But not to worry, as living this higher law may well be out of your scope. Lets see try a little humility or perhaps telling the truth, some repentence and lets not forget the law of concecration

The very definition of arrogance.

[_gramps]

Mihalj wrote:

Just an observation, there always seem to be more sisres than brethren, especialy when counted from the pauplet.

Slow down, dude. Get your fingers on the right keys, or get a dictionary. It is painful to try and get through your post this way.

Is that what you do during sacrament meetings, sit with the Bishopric and count how many more women there are in the congregation than men? Get a smart phone and do something productive if the speakers are boring you.

I do have some knowlige about polygamy, but in all honesty the dicussion is not realy relevant as it is not church doctrine for now. When if in the future it arrives then lets pray and ask the Lord and get an answer for ourselves, our own testimony on the matter.

No, you seem to have very little knowledge about polygamy. It is still doctrine, and is still practiced today, albeit in a form that won't get the Church busted and running afoul of the Constitution.

Please forgive me for my brashness, you know how us Aussies are, but it seems simple to me, If the Prophet announces it, well we pray about it, and then make our own choise.

Hmmm. I know lots of Aussies, as well. They have never come across to me as proud and arrogant as you come across. You blame your character on the fact that you were born in Australia? That is funny.

Well anaway just drove home for six hours following Stake conference, it was very powerfull, the mesaage was all about trimming our lamps and having our oil vessels full, and prepare for the second comming, we have been away from home since Friday and managed a session at the Temple, and when we came home riding on our spiritual high we found our two big 60kg dogs in the house and turning the place upside down. We now have a slightly damaged back door, but i don't think that we will have a problem with burglers.

I am glad I missed it. Oh, and the second coming has been coming for a couple thousand of years. Your kids, after you are resting in the grave, will be hearing the same old worn-out tripe when they are sitting in sacrament meeting counting the women, just as you are today.

Get someone to take care of your dogs next time. You just sound silly. (Dogs don't get the 'spiritual high' mantra.) And abusive.

Till next time

Can't wait. Next time, check the name of the forum before you stumble through the open door. This is Mormon Discussions where everyone can have an opinion, and express it freely, even one like yours. If that frightens you, you can always go back to counting from the pulpit the number of women in the congregation.

But, please, stay around. I was sure you were a troll, and you still may be, but you are so much like my father (especially the unwarranted arrogance) that I could be dead wrong. I know believers just like you.

[_moksha]

Joseph lost his prophetic mantle when he laid Fanny down in the hay and dropped his pants.

That is glass half empty kind of talk. Say rather that he gained a straw mantle.

[_Mihalj]

Mihalj wrote:

Just an observation, there always seem to be more sisres than brethren, especialy when counted from the pauplet.

Slow down, dude. Get your fingers on the right keys, or get a dictionary. It is painful to try and get through your post this way.

Is that what you do during sacrament meetings, sit with the Bishopric and count how many more women there are in the congregation than men? Get a smart phone and do something productive if the speakers are boring you.

I do have some knowlige about polygamy, but in all honesty the dicussion is not realy relevant as it is not church doctrine for now. When if in the future it arrives then lets pray and ask the Lord and get an answer for ourselves, our own testimony on the matter.

No, you seem to have very little knowledge about polygamy. It is still doctrine, and is still practiced today, albeit in a form that won't get the Church busted and running afoul of the Constitution.

Please forgive me for my brashness, you know how us Aussies are, but it seems simple to me, If the Prophet announces it, well we pray about it, and then make our own choise.

Hmmm. I know lots of Aussies, as well. They have never come across to me as proud and arrogant as you come across. You blame your character on the fact that you were born in Australia? That is funny.

Well anaway just drove home for six hours following Stake conference, it was very powerfull, the mesaage was all about trimming our lamps and having our oil vessels full, and prepare for the second comming, we have been away from home since Friday and managed a session at the Temple, and when we came home riding on our spiritual high we found our two big 60kg dogs in the house and turning the place upside down. We now have a slightly damaged back door, but i don't think that we will have a problem with burglers.

I am glad I missed it. Oh, and the second coming has been coming for a couple thousand of years. Your kids, after you are resting in the grave, will be hearing the same old worn-out tripe when they are sitting in sacrament meeting counting the women, just as you are today.

Get someone to take care of your dogs next time. You just sound silly. (Dogs don't get the 'spiritual high' mantra.) And abusive.

Till next time

Can't wait. Next time, check the name of the forum before you stumble through the open door. This is Mormon Discussions where everyone can have an opinion, and express it freely, even one like yours. If that frightens you, you can always go back to counting from the pulpit the number of women in the congregation.

But, please, stay around. I was sure you were a troll, and you still may be, but you are so much like my father (especially the unwarranted arrogance) that I could be dead wrong. I know believers just like you.

Go ahead, but you have still missed the point, your discussion is apostate talk, Joseph Smith never lost his mantle, and this woman says that he has, perhaps you and her need to go and start another religion. Yes troll is quite appropriate, better that than ignorant and self righteous, and oh it just hurts the comments about my dogs and counting from the paulpit, perhaps you do not keep atendence figures.

So now lets see, so far between you clowns, you have said that Joseph Smith lost his mantle, that BY never had it, that you beleive the gospel is true and not the church, and that you are sadly disapointed in the bretheren. Now you call me arrogant. Wow.
No wonder the world hates the yanks, still i suppose i am quite happy to have you die for my country, it just may thin some of you out.

As far as my dogs go, you have got to be kidding, you will not give health care to the poor in your country, and still have not cleaned up after Katrina, and so quick to make a statement. Incidently the neigbour cared for the dogs.


Ps i appologise for the spelling, i read and write in three languages and English is the last i learnt.


I look forward with great anticipation at your smart comment regarding this statement.

PSS you can get councelling for your problem with your father, if it helps.

[_Mihalj]

Joseph lost his prophetic mantle when he laid Fanny down in the hay and dropped his pants.

That is glass half empty kind of talk. Say rather that he gained a straw mantle.

Dear Moksha, the statement was not mine, but an attempt to quote harmony, and rebuttle some statements. I totaly beleive that Joseph Smith is a Prophet and that his revelations regarding all matters were as the Lord would have them. This because i prayed and found out for my self.

My whole object is to defend this knowlige

[_Mihalj]

Joseph lost his prophetic mantle when he laid Fanny down in the hay and dropped his pants.

That is glass half empty kind of talk. Say rather that he gained a straw mantle.

Dear Moksha, the statement was not mine, but an attempt to quote harmony, and rebuttle some statements. I totaly beleive that Joseph Smith is a Prophet and that his revelations regarding all matters were as the Lord would have them. This because i prayed and found out for my self.

My whole object is to defend this knowlige