Mormon History and Mormon Belief

[_Yoda]

Meaning that your site is, on some level, ideologically discriminatory.

As the owner of the website, isn't that his prerogative?

[_Doctor Scratch]

Meaning that your site is, on some level, ideologically discriminatory.

As the owner of the website, isn't that his prerogative?

Yes, it most certainly is.

[Guest]

God did not pronounce all other faiths as false.

Simon, here is what it says in the canonised version of the First Vision:
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt;
(underlining is mine)

Care to retract your claim Simon?

[_Pollypinks]

And then we wonder why, as only one of the reasons, the abomination theory creates tension with Mormons and other religions.

[_stemelbow]

ETA: No apologies needed, Stem.

I think you are basically an honest guy and probably meant well.

Well, I'm glad your impeccable record of never lying can be said to stay in tact. I can't trust Wikipedia anymore. The other news is, the reason I spotted that is when you said 130 degrees I recall from college the claim then was no place outside death Valley and the Sahara had reached 130 degrees before. college filled me with a bunch of lies--that liberal outlet of untruth telling.

[_subgenius]

ETA: No apologies needed, Stem.

I think you are basically an honest guy and probably meant well.

Well, I'm glad your impeccable record of never lying can be said to stay in tact. I can't trust Wikipedia anymore. The other news is, the reason I spotted that is when you said 130 degrees I recall from college the claim then was no place outside death Valley and the Sahara had reached 130 degrees before. college filled me with a bunch of lies--that liberal outlet of untruth telling.

the great thing about the internet is how many "true things" there is in it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremes_on_Earth
Mitraba, 131 degrees. June 15, 2010, Death Valley - 134
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_we ... r_recorded
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001375.html
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wheat7.htm

1. Kuwait
The heat was the most intense in Kuwait, which recorded its hottest temperature in history on June 15 in Abdaly, according to the Kuwait Met office. The mercury hit 52.6°C (126.7°F). Kuwait's previous all-time hottest temperature was 51.9°C (125.4°F), on July 27,2007, at Abdaly.

2. Iraq
Iraq had its hottest day in history on June 14, 2010, when the mercury hit 52.0°C (125.6°F) in Basra.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07 ... -temps.php

http://www.currentresults.com/Weather-E ... -world.php


My wife (a marine) did 2 tours on the beach (no ocean), says he is no liar, but likely exaggerates at times.

[_DrW]

ETA: No apologies needed, Stem.

I think you are basically an honest guy and probably meant well.

Well, I'm glad your impeccable record of never lying can be said to stay in tact. I can't trust Wikipedia anymore. The other news is, the reason I spotted that is when you said 130 degrees I recall from college the claim then was no place outside death Valley and the Sahara had reached 130 degrees before. college filled me with a bunch of lies--that liberal outlet of untruth telling.

Hi, Stem,

Two words: Global warming.

[_DrW]

My wife (a marine) did 2 tours on the beach (no ocean), says he is no liar, but likely exaggerates at times.

Two Questions:

It is not clear who it is that is no liar but is being accused of exaggerating. Could you clarify?

And what exactly is the difference between exaggerating and lying?
________________

I also served in the Marine Corps (2120018). During that time, and since, I have worked on tracked vehicles (M48, M60 and M1) in some pretty hot places, including Yuma Proving Grounds (as GC describes), the Yakima Firing Center, and Barstow.

But for pure hot, humid hell, IMHO, nothing comes close to Camp Doha in Kuwait.

If your wife served in Kuwait, just ask her.

[_subgenius]

....
Two Questions:

It is not clear who it is that is no liar but is being accused of exaggerating. Could you clarify?

And what exactly is the difference between exaggerating and lying?
.....

But for pure hot, humid hell, IMHO, nothing comes close to Camp Doha in Kuwait.

If your wife served in Kuwait, just ask her.

I can answer both questions.
A lie is a false representation of the truth with the intent to deceive, whereas an exaggeration is just an excessive representation of the truth. For example: Camp Doha can be "hot as hell", a truth represented in an excessive manner....contrast with.....Camp Doha is located in Alaska.....clarified?
There is little doubt that Kuwait is hot..and that Doha is hot, hair-dryer-wind hot, and likely there is little care or distinction when the temperature is 125, 130, or 135 degrees, especially wearing that breathable lightweight military clothing.
Furthermore, when one turns to the internet for "proof" of anything, one is seldom disappointed.
My wife likes the heat more than myself, she endured it with little complaint....but there was an issue with how the desert-mud is less than accommodating.

[_DrW]

....
Two Questions:

It is not clear who it is that is no liar but is being accused of exaggerating. Could you clarify?

And what exactly is the difference between exaggerating and lying?
.....

But for pure hot, humid hell, IMHO, nothing comes close to Camp Doha in Kuwait.

If your wife served in Kuwait, just ask her.

I can answer both questions.
A lie is a false representation of the truth with the intent to deceive, whereas an exaggeration is just an excessive representation of the truth. For example: Camp Doha can be "hot as hell", a truth represented in an excessive manner....contrast with.....Camp Doha is located in Alaska.....clarified?
There is little doubt that Kuwait is hot..and that Doha is hot, hair-dryer-wind hot, and likely there is little care or distinction when the temperature is 125, 130, or 135 degrees, especially wearing that breathable lightweight military clothing.
Furthermore, when one turns to the internet for "proof" of anything, one is seldom disappointed.
My wife likes the heat more than myself, she endured it with little complaint....but there was an issue with how the desert-mud is less than accommodating.

Fair enough.

Not sure I agree with your low opinion of internet information resources for accuracy and reliability, though. I would also claim that one should expect to find evidence on the internet, not necessarily proof. If one uses trusted sources and looks for second independent source confirmation, I think the internet does pretty well. It is certainly faster than heading off to the nearest library.

I like the "hair-dryer- wind-hot" turn of phrase. Definitely sounds like something a female would come up with to describe Kuwait in the summer time.

And finally, when talking about heat and how it feels, don't forget the humidity. The main difference between places like Yuma and Barstow, as compared to places like Kuwait and Eastern Saudi Arabia, is the humidity.