bcuzbcuz wrote:.......but would have probably been misquoted in that as well.
show where i misquoted, please...otherwise keep backpedaling
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So, it's settled then. Rainbows existed prior to the flood story: ample stories existed both covering rainbows and additional flood stories, along with cave paintings depicting rainbows. The argument that rainbows didn't exist prior to Noah because they are not mentioned in the Bible prior to Noah, holds about as much water as the Lego build-it-yourself ark.
No one has been able to offer any proof or ever a viable theory about light refraction being different 4500 years ago.
And yet the Mormons here still defend the idea that rainbows were the sign given to Noah and will be the sign of the final coming.
Quaint.
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Rainbows hold a special place on that mental faith protecting shelf that all believing Mormons have....
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
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Bret Ripley wrote:Granted, but at least the bow seems to make some sort of sense. Remember, before YWHW was Israel's national god he was identified by some peoples as a storm god (in some respects similar to his arch-rival, Ba'al). A storm god displaying his unthreatening weapon (bow without arrow) seems to be an apt symbol in this instance.
OTOH, "I place my severed foreskin in the clouds" would probably make for a more interesting Sunday School lesson.
I think these are good points, especially when the rainbow is viewed as an unloaded bow (without arrow) pointed away from the inhabitants of the earth.
I think it likely this part of the Noah story is a way of explaining how an unusual atmospheric phenomenon came into existence, though it likely has no basis in historic fact.
Sort of like how the Eden story explains why serpents have no legs.
Or how rain and snow is explained by the opening of a window in heaven.
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I have never seen such a high concentration of fuzzy headed pseudo-scientific nonsense as in this thread. In particular, Franktalk, OMG! Sorry man but you seriously do not know what you are talking about.
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Buffalo wrote:Subgenius, do ever plan to attempt to address the evidence against your claims, or will you continue to make excuses?
what actual evidence...only theories have been proposed. No one has yet to address the original assumption that light has always refracted in the manner of rainbows and that it always will.
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