subgenius wrote:no, i have a clue as to "why" they might have been...there is just no empirical evidence proving that they were...and certainly no evidence that contradicts the archaeological evidence that God created them.
"archaeological evidence that god created" rainbows? What??? Can you please point me to this evidence? What kind of "empirical evidence" would prove that rainbows existed prior to the creation of the flood myth? that's like asking for "empirical evidence" that rainbows existed prior to humans showing up in Middle-Earth...Do you understand what empirical evidence is?
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schreech wrote:"archaeological evidence that god created" rainbows? What??? Can you please point me to this evidence?
archaeology 101....information in written documents from the past are valid forms of evidence. Especially since no conflicting evidence is known to exist that would negate the author's assertion that God created rainbows.
What kind of "empirical evidence" would prove that rainbows existed prior to the creation of the flood myth?
the empirical type..though it would be awesome to see a photograph of one...or a painting.
that's like asking for "empirical evidence" that rainbows existed prior to humans showing up in Middle-Earth
no it is not. it is like asking for evidence which supports or concludes the "belief" or "knowledge" that rainbows existed 100,000 years ago, or prior to God creating them...or that they existed without God creating them.....or more specifically that the laws of light refraction have been historically, significantly historically, immutable....any proof for any of that would be nice...otherwise it seems to be taken on "faith".
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Sub genius, do you believe the information about the creation contained in the documentary evidence that you picture is meant literally or figuratively? And does your view agree with that of the Church that published them?
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subgenius wrote:archaeology 101....information in written documents from the past are valid forms of evidence. Especially since no conflicting evidence is known to exist that would negate the author's assertion that God created rainbowsxisted prior to humans showing up in Middle-Earth
Definition:
archaeology or archeology (ärk-l-j) The scientific study of past human life and culture by the examination of physical remains, such as graves, tools, and pottery.
There is no evidence for it. Mythology does not count as archaeological evidence. I'm guessing that you have never taken a single course in archaeology. And certainly not one in critical thinking.
You're making it up as you go along.
This, or any other post that I have made or will make in the future, is strictly my own opinion and consequently of little or no value.
"Faith is believing something you know ain't true" Twain.
Drifting wrote:Sub genius, do you believe the information about the creation contained in the documentary evidence that you picture is meant literally or figuratively? And does your view agree with that of the Church that published them?
re-phrase the question, please.
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Drifting wrote:Sub genius, do you believe the information about the creation contained in the documentary evidence that you picture is meant literally or figuratively? And does your view agree with that of the Church that published them?
re-phrase the question, please.
Okay. Do you believe the information contained within the Bible about the creation is a literal recounting of the events? Or do you believe it contains a fictional (symbolic) recounting that isn't meant to be taken literally?
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Quasimodo wrote:quote="subgenius" archaeology 101....information in written documents from the past are valid forms of evidence. Especially since no conflicting evidence is known to exist that would negate the author's assertion that God created rainbowsxisted prior to humans showing up in Middle-Earth
either sloppiness or misquoting me intentionally, please refrain from either.
Definition:
archaeology or archeology (ärk-l-j) The scientific study of past human life and culture by the examination of physical remains, such as graves, tools, and pottery.
There is no evidence for it. Mythology does not count as archaeological evidence. I'm guessing that you have never taken a single course in archaeology. And certainly not one in critical thinking.
you likely would not recognize either one, so i will consider that when reading your posts. However, written documents and writing are certainly considered evidence...typically varies with degrees of reliability and is not favorable as a sole source, but it most certainly is. Unless you consider that any written material from history offers no insight into "past human life and culture"? by which case you would seal your fate as being incapable of contributing anything meaningful to this discourse.
You're making it up as you go along.
unlikely, but i appreciate the shout-out for my improvisational skills.
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Drifting wrote:Okay. Do you believe the information contained within the Bible about the creation is a literal recounting of the events?
in as far as it has been translated correctly, yes.
Or do you believe it contains a fictional (symbolic) recounting that isn't meant to be taken literally?
i can almost agree with your assertion here, but i believe equating fictional with symbolic is not correct. Some symbols are non-fiction, that is to say, many symbols have true meanings.
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Drifting wrote:Okay. Do you believe the information contained within the Bible about the creation is a literal recounting of the events?
in as far as it has been translated correctly, yes.
Sadly the Church doesn't agree with you. On another thread (can't remember which) bcspace has posted a quote from the current institute manual which teaches the students that the story of Eve being made from the rib of Adam is not meant to be read literally. That opens up the plausibility that all the stories of the Bible could equally be purely illustrative of a principle rather than literally things that happened.
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Isn't the creation narrative in the Book of Abraham and the extended "Moses" that Joseph Smith did? Why would those be translated incorrectly?
What about the creation narrative in the temple? Can we trust that?
I know that each version is a bit different, but one of 'em has gotta be right!
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