MONSON STORY

[_harmony]

centuries of Mormon deceit

What deceit?

Financial deceit.

[_Franktalk]

If you feel there is no God and all of doctrine is man made then I must ask why some of you spend your time here? If indeed you wish to save man from a false belief there are many to choose from. And there are much bigger churches to try and take down. So I must ask again why spend the time here? What truly is the motivation behind the hours of work?

If you think that the church is false then make one that is not. Many have done so. And what of the charity that the church performs? Are you willing to take down a good organization because of disagreements? Again just what is the motivation?

Don't give me a pile of interpreted data and opinions. I could care less. But explain why the need to spend your time here?

World's population 6.997 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Mormon members 14 million in July 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Church

A whopping .2%

Rather than trying to take apart this minor church just let me know what church is the right one?

[_Roger Morrison]

Thanks Harmony!

And social moral deceit. Pretending to honor the Christian ideal of monogamy while practicing polygamy. Since outlawed in the current popular Mormon Church, while remaining an archived tenet of LDSISM practiced by fringe and radical groups. . .

Pretending a "living a Prophet," Thomas S. Monson, the head of the Mormon church, is exclusively franchised to receive revelations and commandments from God, to and for the Mormon church. . .

Pretending a Holy Priesthood authority, exercised in 130 Mormon Temples world wide, that promise and covenant with Loyal, approved Members, special recognition and privilege in Heaven and throughout eternity. This favor is dependent upon paying an honest tithe of ten percent of their income, forever. Which possibly 30% of members do??? Not a lot of transparency in Mormonism. . .
Time will continue to change it all. . .
Enjoy the day!
Roger

[_Themis]

If you feel there is no God and all of doctrine is man made then I must ask why some of you spend your time here? If indeed you wish to save man from a false belief there are many to choose from. And there are much bigger churches to try and take down. So I must ask again why spend the time here? What truly is the motivation behind the hours of work?

If you think that the church is false then make one that is not. Many have done so. And what of the charity that the church performs? Are you willing to take down a good organization because of disagreements? Again just what is the motivation?

Don't give me a pile of interpreted data and opinions. I could care less. But explain why the need to spend your time here?

World's population 6.997 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Mormon members 14 million in July 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Church

A whopping .2%

Rather than trying to take apart this minor church just let me know what church is the right one?

Like many issues, this is another one you just don't get. I believe you have asked this before and been given many good answers to your questions. If you can't understand it then, I see no reason to think you will get it now.

[_Franktalk]

Like many issues, this is another one you just don't get. I believe you have asked this before and been given many good answers to your questions. If you can't understand it then, I see no reason to think you will get it now.

So you choose to do the non answer. That actually makes perfect sense. For those reading this thread they will see the vast depth to your side of the argument.

[_subgenius]

Right, members would be in shock! Some elated. Others in utter despair!

delusion

However, the time will come when the truth shall be known. . .

based on speculation - and incorrectly assumes that the truth is not already known. incredible assumptive.

The Berlin Wall did come down! Blacks can now hold the Priesthood! Garments could be made, and worn, in 2 pieces! Polygamy was outlawed! (twice!)

and they now make seat belts in the car for dogs!
so many logical fallacies...but kudos for the exclamation points!

Still a few things to bring forward: Women having equal authority to males...

disingenuous.

Non-member family members will be permitted to witness their children & grandchildren sealed in marriage . . .

makes no sense

Enlightenment is ongoing.

the absence of which occurs only on the OP.

Eventually, education and social justice work their purposes. . .

agreed

Look around at our world compared to that of the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s & 1900s & count yer blessings

garble gook?

...I live through disappointments encountered were I expected moral integrity to Trump ego and arrogance, in whatever their guise, rather unscathed AND undaunted. IF the glory of God is intelligence (not faith) Mormons do teach that, then INTELLIGENCE will prevail ... in time. Be patient Bro :-)
Enjoy the day!
Roger

wow, so much for not being judgmental.....your wanna be fascist is peeking out.

[_Themis]

Like many issues, this is another one you just don't get. I believe you have asked this before and been given many good answers to your questions. If you can't understand it then, I see no reason to think you will get it now.

So you choose to do the non answer. That actually makes perfect sense. For those reading this thread they will see the vast depth to your side of the argument.

I believe you have asked before? If this is true, or you have read threads asking this, then can you give some of the reasons people have given? If no, can you give reasons why you think some might come here?

[_Franktalk]

I believe you have asked before? If this is true, or you have read threads asking this, then can you give some of the reasons people have given? If no, can you give reasons why you think some might come here?

Yet another non answer answer. There are some real masters on these boards of avoiding any personal opinions or beliefs but instead attack others opinions. Let us see what the next response will be.

Just to be clear I am waiting for an answer to my question about what motivates the anti's to spend time here. The second part is what church should we flock to if the LDS church is so wrong?

Any bets on the type of answer that will arrive?

[_Dr. Shades]

If you feel there is no God and all of doctrine is man made then I must ask why some of you spend your time here?

In my case, it's the only religion I know well enough to feel comfortable talking about in depth.

So I must ask again why spend the time here? What truly is the motivation behind the hours of work?

It's fun.

If you think that the church is false then make one that is not. Many have done so.

Easier said than done. If I made a church, would you attend? If not, why would I believe anyone else would?

And what of the charity that the church performs?

If I break your leg with a sledgehammer, and then handed you a free crutch, is that crutch "charity" on my part?

Rather than trying to take apart this minor church just let me know what church is the right one?

You must join none of them, for they are all wrong.

[_Roger Morrison]

If you feel there is no God and all of doctrine is man made then I must ask why some of you spend your time here? If indeed you wish to save man from a false belief there are many to choose from. And there are much bigger churches to try and take down. So I must ask again why spend the time here? What truly is the motivation behind the hours of work?

An honest question. I'll try an honest, sincere answer: Personally, I have great appreciation for most church members that i know. They are welcome to their beliefs, whatever they are. However, the corporate entity is what I have little respect for. LDS Inc is entirely self-serving,even in their charities. From which many might benefit via their "generosity."
You must be aware of LDS the purpose?! To convert the world to Mormonism! 50,000 missionaries, & Member-missionaries are actively involved in doing so. Most members do not recognize LDSism negatives, so they remain to enjoy the positives, oblivious to the toxicity in which they survive.
You are correct, there are many false-teaching-churches, many bigger. But few as insidious and conniving as LDS Inc. (In my opinion.)
Other than waving placards in front of innocent, well intending members, I think it less intrusive to express my opinions in the midst of honest seekers, in a specially dedicated space. Thank you Shade & Co.
My motivation?? I tend to enjoy discussing interesting topics. Few are more interesting, & purposeful than Mormonism. . . Having spent/invested over 60 years and 1,000s of $$s in Mormon-matters, holding most lay positions except Stake Presidency, I am quite prepared to discuss THE Church with most reasonable folks. Member & non-Member. I assumed you to one. Taking the name "Franktalk" suggests that you can both dish it & take it???:-)

If you think that the church is false then make one that is not. Many have done so. And what of the charity that the church performs? Are you willing to take down a good organization because of disagreements? Again just what is the motivation?

Come on Frank, you must see "Mormon Discussions" as somewhat of a church??:-)

Don't give me a pile of interpreted data and opinions. I could care less. But explain why the need to spend your time here?

World's population 6.997 billion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Mormon members 14 million in July 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Church

A whopping .2%

Rather than trying to take apart this minor church just let me know what church is the right one?

Frank, the "Right one" is where the attendee feels comfortable, well served and not pressured to perform to reach heaven and avoid hell. In my seriously considered opinion, neither place exists. A good church is above all a Social Centre staffed with qualified, trained personnel. Such places are emerging. However most are still tied into Theology. Time will come when that won't be the case. . .

I hope this somewhat satisfies your curiosity. I'm not looking for agreement. . .
Best regards, Roger