Why aren't Book of Mormon populations Jewish?

[_Themis]

I don't think it is odd at all. That is something between you and God. Not between me and you or anyone else. The whole point of Mormonism is to invite people to seek and really speak with God. I don't think Mormons should really set any other expectations and just be understanding of people and kind to them otherwise.

Many are seeking God, but he is not coming to them. Some come to understand that their spiritual experiences are just themselves. Even the more intense ones. Many who have had expereinces with aliens visiting them also understand that it was not really aliens.

[_Tobin]

I don't think it is odd at all. That is something between you and God. Not between me and you or anyone else. The whole point of Mormonism is to invite people to seek and really speak with God. I don't think Mormons should really set any other expectations and just be understanding of people and kind to them otherwise.

Many are seeking God, but he is not coming to them. Some come to understand that their spiritual experiences are just themselves. Even the more intense ones. Many who have had expereinces with aliens visiting them also understand that it was not really aliens.

Yes, but you only see part of the picture. Stating many seek God does not mean they do not eventually find God or discover the truth for themselves. Are we to judge the value of taking a journey based upon the first few steps because we have not arrived yet - or should we withhold our assessment until after we arrived at our destination?

[_Themis]

Yes, but you only see part of the picture. Stating many seek God does not mean they do not eventually find God or discover the truth for themselves. Are we to judge the value of taking a journey based upon the first few steps because we have not arrived yet - or should we withhold our assessment until after we arrived at our destination?

You really can be inconsistent with what you say. Now it's a journey, one you never took though.

I strongly disagree with Mormons that would have any lower standards for belief. After all, Joseph Smith seemed to see lots of things. So did a lot of the early saints. Seems like there is a theme here that modern Mormons are missing out on. IF you don't know there is a God and God hasn't told you to believe in this stuff, DON'T!!! You need something substantial to believe it. Feelings will never cut it and neither will self-evident sciptures, mound-builders, or any other non-sense that the typical Mormon will bring up to prove it either.

[_just me]

I think it's odd that Mormonism can be full of error and still be "true."

Mormonism is based on truth, that being there is a God. If you don't agree with that, that is your right. But it isn't an error.

Most religions (but not all) are based on their being a god/ess or gods/esses. So what makes Mormonism "true?"

[Guest]

Yes, but you only see part of the picture. Stating many seek God does not mean they do not eventually find God or discover the truth for themselves. Are we to judge the value of taking a journey based upon the first few steps because we have not arrived yet - or should we withhold our assessment until after we arrived at our destination?

You really can be inconsistent with what you say. Now it's a journey, one you never took though.

I strongly disagree with Mormons that would have any lower standards for belief. After all, Joseph Smith seemed to see lots of things. So did a lot of the early saints. Seems like there is a theme here that modern Mormons are missing out on. IF you don't know there is a God and God hasn't told you to believe in this stuff, DON'T!!! You need something substantial to believe it. Feelings will never cut it and neither will self-evident sciptures, mound-builders, or any other non-sense that the typical Mormon will bring up to prove it either.

You are under the impression that seeing God or knowing God is the end of the journey. It is only the beginning. The destination is learning the whole truth and making it one with our lives.

[_Tobin]

I think it's odd that Mormonism can be full of error and still be "true."

Mormonism is based on truth, that being there is a God. If you don't agree with that, that is your right. But it isn't an error.

Most religions (but not all) are based on their being a god/ess or gods/esses. So what makes Mormonism "true?"

The truth is there is a God and you can speak with God and explore the truth. That is what makes Mormonism true (and anything else that teaches that). I don't think Mormonism is particularly unique in that view if that is what you are after.

[_Themis]

You are under the impression that seeing God or knowing God is the end of the journey.

Nope, but then it's interesting just how much people who think God came to them can't agree on it. LOL

[_ldsfaqs]

If I recall correctly the groups described as going and setting up in the Americas were Jewish when they set of but weren't Jewish when they got there.
(based on the Book of Mormon text).

What happened?

Because they mixed with the locals..... The Book of Mormon actually implies such, not to mention explains several seeming discrepancy's such as population explosions etc.

You all forget that Lehi's party was wealthy and well-learned. Them entering more primitive society's those society's would graft themselves to the main group because they were the most technologically advanced.

[_ldsfaqs]

Why would the population have to be Jewish?

Because the Book of Mormon says there was no one else there, and the Jaredites were destroyed. Also the Book of Mormon and church doctrine indicate Noah's flood was global, so everyone who would have been there would have died.

Actually the Book of Mormon doesn't say "no one was there", in fact it says the opposite. If you actually knew the book, you would know this. Yes, there is a point in which they say a certain land was set apart for them, etc., but the Bible also says this so-called "no one was there", yet it also shows clearly plenty of groups were there and they were known, likewise with the Book of Mormon. Several groups are mentioned later during the same time period that had to come from somewhere, but were not from Lehi's group.

Again, ignorance of the Scriptures and the Churches actual full history creates anti-mormonism.

Oh, and by the way..... Goodness..... Noah's flood occurred well before Lehi, thus plenty of time for various peoples to populate the continent. No one has ever claimed "Hebrews" were the only people on the planet. Man, talk about IGNORANCE..... creating anti-mormonism!!!

[_Themis]

Actually the Book of Mormon doesn't say "no one was there", in fact it says the opposite. If you actually knew the book, you would know this.

You can always count on ldsfaqs to come in make a bunch of insults and a few assertions without backing them up. At least you are consistent, even if embarrassing for real members of the LDS church. I have asked others to show where it mentions others in the Book of Mormon. Lets see if he can break his consistency and actually try to back this one up.

Yes, there is a point in which they say a certain land was set apart for them, etc., but the Bible also says this so-called "no one was there", yet it also shows clearly plenty of groups were there and they were known, likewise with the Book of Mormon. Several groups are mentioned later during the same time period that had to come from somewhere, but were not from Lehi's group.

You might want to actually read the Bible. It mentions other groups and what they did to get them out of their promised land.

Oh, and by the way..... Goodness..... Noah's flood occurred well before Lehi, thus plenty of time for various peoples to populate the continent. No one has ever claimed "Hebrews" were the only people on the planet. Man, talk about IGNORANCE..... creating anti-mormonism!!!

The problem is that there was no flood. People lived here well over ten thousand years with no interruptions. I am certainly not anti-Mormon, but I wonder if you might be, trying to make the church look bad. Now how about showing everyone where the Book of Mormon mentions other groups, and I don't mean the Jaredites or Mulekites, which are all supposed to be from the Old world.