Drifting wrote:Anyone know, in the last 34 years how many of the speakers at General Conference have been black?
what does it matter to you?
If you don't know, just say "I don't know".
Out of the estimated 1,500 to 2,000 talks given over that period, how many do you estimate have been given by a black person?
I'm going with - Less than 0.3%
Black people are still treated as an inferior minority regardless of what Church PR departments say and despite targeting GC camera's on the very isolated black people in the audience and choir.
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Drifting wrote:Well, it is taught that these people were less righteous in the pre existence so that's probably why they weren't invited to speak at Conference. See the Book of Mormon for further clarification about the skin colour being a sign of a curse...
oh, i was taught from the Jewish folk tales about Canaan and Ham and Ham's son named Cush(which means 'black'), and the Noahite view, and the Muslim tradition for "black" slavery, and even perhaps a little from those who claimed blacks were pre-Adamite - from whence Cain's wife came....i did not realize it was actually the Mormon's fault, thank you.
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Drifting wrote: If you don't know, just say "I don't know".
Out of the estimated 1,500 to 2,000 talks given over that period, how many do you estimate have been given by a black person?
gee whiz Adolf, i am hoping none. so, what is it with you and not answering questions?
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Drifting wrote:...despite targeting GC camera's on the very isolated black people in the audience and choir.
believe it or not, your insistence that this occurs is as racist as if it were actually occurring - when the fact is that you can not prove it occurs at all. All you have proven is that when a "minority" is shown on the video feed - you notice! The rest of us don't care because we just see people...personally i only notice the people who seemingly are more enthusiastic about singing than others - such animation!
I do agree with one notion...the camera does likely target the Irish-american at times...but they never seem to show the Canadians as much as they do Americans....nationalism rearing its ugly head again.
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RockSlider wrote:Well of course there is what I, over the years, always refer to as the (single) token woman speaker. This years had an interesting do.
actually, there were 5 total. 3 for young women's session 1 for Saturday morning session 1 for Sunday morning session
and i believe about 34 unique speakers, so about 15% of the speakers were female...for those who consider statistics to be a sort of determining factor for worth.
Your Math is flawed. Excluding the women only, men only sessions, and audit and statistical reports I believe there were 27 actual speakers. 2 were female. That's 7.4%
And 0% were black...
Interestingly, men are invited to attend the Women Only sessions and there was also a male speaker. Women are absolutely not allowed to the Priesthood only session and a woman cannot address to attendant Priesthood holders.
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