Recently I am learning to walk without limp. It seems to be successful...
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
gdemetz wrote:Yes, that is recorded in Abraham 2:22-25, and there is more written about this in Genesis 12: 11-20.
22 And it came to pass when I was come near to enter into Egypt, the Lord said unto me: Behold, Sarai, thy wife, is a very fair woman to look upon;
23 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see her, they will say—She is his wife; and they will kill you, but they will save her alive; therefore see that ye do on this wise:
24 Let her say unto the Egyptians, she is thy sister, and thy soul shall live.
25 And it came to pass that I, Abraham, told Sarai, my wife, all that the Lord had said unto me—Therefore say unto them, I pray thee, thou art my sister, that it may be well with me for thy sake, and my soul shall live because of thee.
In summary - It's okay for Mormon's to lie because God is willing to take the blame...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Notice from the biblical account, that it is God who instructs Abraham to say that, and I submit that to God it is not a lie since He is the Heavenly Father of us all. Abraham was just doing what God instructed him to do, and, consequently, was being a good "Mormon." LOL!
gdemetz wrote:Notice from the biblical account, that it is God who instructs Abraham to say that, and I submit that to God it is not a lie since He is the Heavenly Father of us all. Abraham was just doing what God instructed him to do, and, consequently, was being a good "Mormon." LOL!
Could you show where in the Bible God tells him to do it? Also, how does God make it not a lie?
In my prior posts, I quoted the scripture which states that. Also, in the post after that, I explained how, in God's view, that it is factual. I hope nobody here will accuse God of being a liar also.
gdemetz wrote:In my prior posts, I quoted the scripture which states that. Also, in the post after that, I explained how, in God's view, that it is factual. I hope nobody here will accuse God of being a liar also.
Yes you quoted Gen which never states God told Abraham to lie. This is why I asked. God can't be stupid enough to think it somehow is not a lie. Can you show how it would not be lying.
You apparently did not read it correctly. It does state that. Also, if we are all the spirit children of God, could we not all be considered brothers and sisters? In fact, in the church some spouses refer to their spouse as brother or sister on occasions.
gdemetz wrote:You apparently did not read it correctly. It does state that.
It does not. If you are so certain it does, it should be easy to quote the specific verse. I remember this came up in an institute class.
Also, if we are all the spirit children of God, could we not all be considered brothers and sisters? In fact, in the church some spouses refer to their spouse as brother or sister on occasions.
Please. This is dishonest and lying. I remember talks from church leaders saying just that. It's lying when you are saying things so the other party will think one thing even though you mean another in your own mind. This is done to deceive. If god's out there, he can't be that stupid. It is a lie.