Fables vs. Restored Truths

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Fables vs. Restored Truths

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One thing that I appreciate about the restoration is that it dispels the fairy tales of the dark ages, such as the one where God is supposedly everywhere, but no where in particular; the one where Adam just comes up from the dirt cartoon style; the one where there is a three-in-one God as if He were some type of vegetable soup; the one where one can just verbally confess and be saved forever; the one where a virgin conceives by herself and produces a God; the one where a person can be saved if his family pays enough indulgence, etc. etc. etc.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:3-4
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gdemetz wrote:One thing that I appreciate about the restoration is that it dispels the fairy tales of the dark ages, such as the one where God is supposedly everywhere, but no where in particular; the one where Adam just comes up from the dirt cartoon style; the one where there is a three-in-one God as if He were some type of vegetable soup; the one where one can just verbally confess and be saved forever; the one where a virgin conceives by herself and produces a God; the one where a person can be saved if his family pays enough indulgence, etc. etc. etc.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:3-4


Yeah, the 'Restoration' got rid of those twin relics of medieval barbarism: monotheism and monogamy.
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Replace on set of fables for another... Pure win!
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The churches doctrines are sound, and not in violation of natural law. The "miracles" recorded as scripture are explained in my "Light of Christ" writing.
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gdemetz wrote:The churches doctrines are sound, and not in violation of natural law. The "miracles" recorded as scripture are explained in my "Light of Christ" writing.


Which ones?
A. The doctrines of Joseph Smith
B. the doctrines of today

Because they're different you know...

Which God were you meaning in the OP?
Heavenly Father
Jesus
Michael/Adam
All those other men who have now become Gods and have their own planets.
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Ok so a corporeal omniscient, omnipotent, being does not violate natural laws (but who uses the light of Christ to be omnipresent), but a spiritual omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient one does.

Is selling your daughter to Joseph for a guarantee of exaltation not an indulgence?

Got it!

Again, trading one set of fables for the other Pure Win!
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gdemetz wrote:One thing that I appreciate about the restoration is that it dispels the fairy tales of the dark ages, such as the one where God is supposedly everywhere, but no where in particular; the one where Adam just comes up from the dirt cartoon style; the one where there is a three-in-one God as if He were some type of vegetable soup; the one where one can just verbally confess and be saved forever; the one where a virgin conceives by herself and produces a God; the one where a person can be saved if his family pays enough indulgence, etc. etc. etc.

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:3-4


What about the fable that there was no death before 6000 years ago, or the fable that humanity, save 8 people, was wiped out by a global flood.

To say nothing of the new fables added by the Book of Abraham/Book of Mormon.
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The doctrines haven't changed. Read What Dr. Cleon Skowsen writes concerning the light of Christ. He makes no mention of some invisible everywhere, but nowhere in particular, being who uses it. These are the vast "seas" of intelligences, who are independent in "their on sphere," who honor (see D&C 29:36) and sustain God, because they choose to. However, if God would not be just, then He would cease to be God, as the Book of Mormon states. Why? Because these intelligences would no longer sustain Him, and His power would dissolve.
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I think you guys have been reading too much atheists and anti Mormon propaganda. I have a suggestion. Try reading some scientific articles which present evidence of some of the things that you believe to be fables, such as the great flood. Selling? Try reading more of the true history of the LDS. Also, try reading the scriptures more, and, in particular, the words of Christ and His apostles, and see what He and they think of the Old Testament writings which you consider to be fables.
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gdemetz wrote:I think you guys have been reading too much atheists and anti Mormon propaganda. I have a suggestion. Try reading some scientific articles which present evidence of some of the things that you believe to be fables, such as the great flood. Selling? Try reading more of the true history of the LDS. Also, try reading the scriptures more, and, in particular, the words of Christ and His apostles, and see what He and they think of the Old Testament writings which you consider to be fables.


So you think it's scientifically possible to get a pair of every species of animal on earth on a 350 ft long boat?
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