Fables vs. Restored Truths

[_bcuzbcuz]

Please tell it to gdemetz, it is his reference...
I've detected only the 290 million years expression.

Sorry and I will.

[_bcuzbcuz]

OK Tobin, check out geologist Russel C. Hussey's find of Michigan's fossil whales.

Why not check out "LAke Michigan Whale Watching" http://www.lakemichiganwhales.com/

[_Themis]

The scientific evidence means nothing.

That's right. No point in letting the facts get in the way.

Either you believe in supernatural events or you do not. If you believe in supernatural events then evidence or the interpretation of evidence is unreliable because we have no idea how a supernatural event manifest.

Exactly. We have no way to know how the Hindu Gods did all those wonderful things.

If however you don't believe in God and rest your faith on the knowledge of man then feel free to interpret any trace evidence anyway you wish.

Precisely. We should put our faith in the only true Gods of Hinduism, and let go of man-made knowledge we get from things like the Bible. Repent you heathens.

My faith is strong enough to withstand any and all of the scientific theories of man.

And those theories of the Bible, which I am sure you would agree are from men, and not from the only true Gods of Hinduism.

[_bcuzbcuz]

Take for instance the decay rates of radioactive elements. At one time these were thought of as fixed and unchanging. This led to the theory of dating using radioactive elements. But today we find that decay rates do change. So the assumption was in error. But the people who embrace these dates will not let go of what they consider fact. They refuse to even consider that is is possible that decay rates in the past were vastly different than today. Those reading this comment will ask for proof of what I say but I will offer no proof. .

All things are simple when viewed with overly simplistic glasses. But from your posts it is not hard to summerize that what you disagree with far outdistances what you agree with. Calibration with carbon dating has been around for 50 years. The calibration makes the dating more accurate. Would you care to opine the opposite?

C14 dating is one tool, definitely not the only.

Do you travel a lot? Have you travelled and studied archaeology in Egypt and Turkey and Greece and Italy and Spain and Portugal and Germany and England. I have, and have myriads of photos from sites in these countries that add up to a very complete picture of Roman and Egyptian finds. Do you have finds or photos you would like to share that cover finds in the Sinai and Israel or Egypt or Jordania to verify your statement about historical accuracy of Biblical finds?

[_Franktalk]

Do you travel a lot? Have you travelled and studied archaeology in Egypt and Turkey and Greece and Italy and Spain and Portugal and Germany and England. I have, and have myriads of photos from sites in these countries that add up to a very complete picture of Roman and Egyptian finds. Do you have finds or photos you would like to share that cover finds in the Sinai and Israel or Egypt or Jordania to verify your statement about historical accuracy of Biblical finds?

Be happy in your belief. If that is what floats your boat then so be it. I started laughing when you said "very complete".

[_bcuzbcuz]

Be happy in your belief. If that is what floats your boat then so be it. I started laughing when you said "very complete".

Have fun with my grammar. If ridicule is your main form of counter argument you are obviously very complete, almost perfect.

But I'll re-word my question for you. Do you ever travel to the countries of scripture you talk about? Or are you like the learned in Asimov's "Foundation Trilogy" who would rather read about the world around them than experience the world around them?

[_Franktalk]

Have fun with my grammar. If ridicule is your main form of counter argument you are obviously very complete, almost perfect.

Your grammar has nothing to do with it. The past has had many purges over time and much of our history is lost. So to claim some pictures you took on vacation gives you a complete idea of the past just seemed funny to me. I would suggest that you embrace the idea that much of the past can not be known because much of the history is just not available to us. What has made it through has been protected by some with agendas. Just do some research into book burning and fabricated history some time. So a picture of the past is made with what is available not with what actually happened. And don't trust scholars, they come in all flavors.

[_gdemetz]

Yes, that's true FrankTalk, the scholars as well as scientists seem to come in all flavors, but in my opinion, if one truly calls himself a Christian, then one should trust in Christ, and if one says that he is a Christian and He truly believes in Christ, then he should also believe in Christs teachings. And, what did Christ teach? He taught that although earth and heaven may pass away, His words would all be fulfilled, and in that same paragraph He mentions the Noah and alludes to the great flood!!!

[_Drifting]

Yes, that's true FrankTalk, the scholars as well as scientists seem to come in all flavors, but in my opinion, if one truly calls himself a Christian, then one should trust in Christ, and if one says that he is a Christian and He truly believes in Christ, then he should also believe in Christs teachings. And, what did Christ teach? He taught that although earth and heaven may pass away, His words would all be fulfilled, and in that same paragraph He mentions the Noah and alludes to the great flood!!!

Which Christ?
The one the Christian world revere's or the other one that Hinckley stated Mormon's follow?

[_gdemetz]

Certainly not Apostate Christendom which is overwhelmed with ignorance and still believes in a 3 in 1 God, in which Christ prays to His same "substance," lands on Himself at His own baptism proclaiming that He is well pleased with Himself, and part of His "substance" knows when it will return again, but the other part doesn't!