Fables vs. Restored Truths

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gdemetz wrote:Certainly not Apostate Christendom which is overwhelmed with ignorance and still believes in a 3 in 1 God, in which Christ prays to His same "substance," lands on Himself at His own baptism proclaiming that He is well pleased with Himself, and part of His "substance" knows when it will return again, but the other part doesn't!


Which Christ?
The one the Christian world revere's or the other one that Hinckley stated Mormon's follow?
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Google "scientific evidence for a global flood"!
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gdemetz...

The LDS Church News reported: "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.


'Mormon's aren't Christian' says the Prophet, Wow...who knew...
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You are misquoting him. He perhaps said the "traditional Christ," or as I mentioned the 3 in 1 version.
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gdemetz wrote:Google "scientific evidence for a global flood"!


About 144,000 results (0.21 seconds)

Ehm...

The Bible tells us that in the last days there will be a group of 144 thousand men chosen from the twelve tribes of Israel (Rev 7:4).

The Bible tells us many thing. Some of them sound great and say nothing. Some of them are simple human stupidity. Take Your pick for every verse!
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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gdemetz wrote:Google "scientific evidence for a global flood"!


There is none. Not even a single piece of evidence.

There are, however, thousands of cranks on the internet willing to tell you that there is.
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Franktalk wrote:Your grammar has nothing to do with it. The past has had many purges over time and much of our history is lost. So to claim some pictures you took on vacation gives you a complete idea of the past just seemed funny to me. I would suggest that you embrace the idea that much of the past can not be known because much of the history is just not available to us. What has made it through has been protected by some with agendas. Just do some research into book burning and fabricated history some time. So a picture of the past is made with what is available not with what actually happened. And don't trust scholars, they come in all flavors.


I talked nothing of history. History is mostly modified revisions of events as told by the winner. Most notable is how the history of women or the favorable characteristics of the losing groups are deleted.

You attempt, but not quite genuinely, to pass off your ridicule with a summary conclusion about what history is, or isn't.

Once again, I was not talking about history. Instead I talk about doing actual, on site, down and dirty, digging and classifying of materials. The drawing of conclusions, the writing of histories, is work I leave for others to do. But I remember the utter thrill of digging and finding a tiny, seven tile, piece of a large Roman mosaic in the coast town of Side, close to modern Manavgat, Turkey.

I stood watching a small group of Egyptian workers dig out one of the hundreds of small, dog-sized, sphinxes that line the royal approach into the Ramses temples in Karnak, Egypt. I was so excited I forgot to film the event and only snapped a shot as one of the bossmen raised his stick to hit one of the workers.

None of this is history. But it is the stuff that history manages to gloss over when trying to tell a bigger, less factual, story. The photos are only reminders to give flashes of momentary joy in reflection. I am neither scholar nor expert, just a happy amateur. I am of the opinion that there is great value in experiencing things first hand.

I asked my question in regards to your travel experiences to find out if you have actually travelled to the lands of the Sinai or Israel for actual insights or whether you base your opinions from reading only. My question still stands. Answer at your leisure.
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gdemetz wrote:You are misquoting him. He perhaps said the "traditional Christ," or as I mentioned the 3 in 1 version.


From LDS Church news.

In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints "do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
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Yes, as I stated, "the traditional Christ." We do not believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, or the "traditional" 3 in 1 Christ of apostate Christendom.
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gdemetz wrote:Yes, as I stated, "the traditional Christ." We do not believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, or the "traditional" 3 in 1 Christ of apostate Christendom.


So Mormon's aren't Christians. I knew it....
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