Fables vs. Restored Truths

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Re: Fables vs. Restored Truths

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gdemetz wrote:Yea, I'm one of those.


:surprised:

Well this explains everything...
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gdemetz wrote:When it states earth, I think of it meaning, perhaps, the giant land mass only.


Because it certainly sounds less ridiculous for just the land to be covered with water, doesn't it?

Would you be willing to speculate as to whether the oceans were also covered with water, or are you pretty sure it was just the land?
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Drifting wrote:Noah didn't have time for sleep.
He had to spend his nights impregnating his wives to ensure the world's population could bloom to over 7 billion people from 8 in a little over four thousand years...

your obvious implication here is that 4,000 years would be insufficient time for people to "bloom to over 7 billion"....care to support that with real facts?
or even if you could support it with a fundamental educated guess?
Here let me show you.....
according to the world population clock, 6.8 billion people have arrived on the scene since year 1(one). HERE...for those doing the math, that is 6.8 billion people in 2,000 years <------way less than 4,000 by the way
Your "insight" is again wrong.
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Sub, there is a huge difference between world population growing to 7 billion from 170 million at the time of Christ than 8 people to 7 billion since Noah.
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SteelHead wrote:Sub, there is a huge difference between world population growing to 7 billion from 170 million at the time of Christ than 8 people to 7 billion since Noah.

not really...Noah was about 2,000 years before Christ....as we can see quite a few people can be generated in 2,000 years...so having 200 million after 2,000 ain't that big of a stretch.....
UNLESS...you have some sort of evidence, fact based statistics, or other "insight" that proves how much time is "enough"....i really have not seen the hard data like you guys obviously have.

Point being, what Drifting, and you, consider as "seems about right", then post it as if it is right, usually is not right.
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subgenius wrote:
SteelHead wrote:Sub, there is a huge difference between world population growing to 7 billion from 170 million at the time of Christ than 8 people to 7 billion since Noah.

not really...Noah was about 2,000 years before Christ....as we can see quite a few people can be generated in 2,000 years...so having 200 million after 2,000 ain't that big of a stretch.....
UNLESS...you have some sort of evidence, fact based statistics, or other "insight" that proves how much time is "enough"....i really have not seen the hard data like you guys obviously have.

Point being, what Drifting, and you, consider as "seems about right", then post it as if it is right, usually is not right.


In the real world, inbreeding has consequences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doma_people

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From 8 people to 25 million 350 years later requires a reproductive growth rate of 137%.... Which is only 133% or so better than the growth rate seen in the fastest growing areas today....

What did Noah and co. eat?
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Uh, there is also the whole problem of, you know, geologic and radiometric evidence that absolutely 100% means the continents have been separating over a period of hundreds of millions of years...
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Samantabhadra wrote:Uh, there is also the whole problem of, you know, geologic and radiometric evidence that absolutely 100% means the continents have been separating over a period of hundreds of millions of years...


Yeah, that's a bit of a fly in gdemetz's soup.
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Samantabhadra wrote:Uh, there is also the whole problem of, you know, geologic and radiometric evidence that absolutely 100% means the continents have been separating over a period of hundreds of millions of years...

ummm...go drink the kool-aid on another thread.
just you stating "absolutely 100%" means you know very little about either side of that argument.
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